I'm forwarding Duncan's response because the E mail got identified as SPAM
on my E mail and was autodeleted..... just happened to spot it. Thought this
may have happened with other people. Not really sure why the Software should
target Duncan!
"We pay our staff grades 14 sessions a week for working 10 sessions, they
also have a number of discretionary points. They can earn over 70k and do. 6
posts : 24hr cover. Until the new contract I was thinking of converting. 2
posts advertised in the BMJ one month ago no takers, anyone interested apply
off list!.
Duncan Peacock
James Paget Hospital
Great Yarmouth"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Fogarty" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: GPSI
Well, I'm not sure about either Fiona's or Jeremy's "planet", as according
to the BMA the truth lies somewhere in between: staff grade salaries begin
at £29,060 for 10 sessions (£37,778 for 13 sessions) and by year six (i.e.
experienced) they are on £40,960 for 10 sessions (£53,248 for 13 sessions).
After that, there are a further five discretionary points, with the
potential to reach £52,860 for 10 sessions (£68,718 for 13 sessions).
I would agree, however, that in order to get 60K, as suggested by Jeremy,
then this would require a staff grade to be at least at year 8 seniority and
to work with full overtime payments (equating to 52 hours' work per week).
Compare that with an inexperienced SHO on 1A banding, who will earn from
£35,910 to £40,725, and, if on 2A banding, which is still very common, the
inexperienced SHO will be earning £43,092 to £48,870 which could easily
outstrip their more experienced staff grade colleague for a similar number
of hours!
Adrian Fogarty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fiona Wallace" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: GPSI
>A staff grades remuneration is not that bad really - equal to a salaried
>partner of about 60k without on call or management responsibility, just
>turning up, doing the job and going home again.
Sorry, Jeremy, but what planet are you on? Experienced staff grades take
home around 35K for 13 sessions, including on-call in many departments. They
work evenings and weekends without any additional remuneration over basic
pay. And sessions in A&E are 4 hours, even though everywhere else (including
my MDU subs) regards a session as 3 1/2 hours.
I have yet to meet a SG who has their full complement of discretionary
points (or indeed any at all).
To gain equivalent pay as a salaried GP you have to work 5 sessions weekdays
with no management or OOH.
Fiona.
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