Well, I tried!
I did send ELENA an e-mail suggesting that they consider SRW, when Phil
sent an earlier draft last October (my replied was cc'ed to this list) -
as a result, at least SRW is now mentioned...
Matthew Dovey
Oxford University
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The CETIS Metadata Special Interest Group
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:21 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Simple Query Interface
>
> I feel the same way. We're just getting some good take-up of
> SRW, its a real
> shame to go and push in another direction, especially when
> SRW has potential
> as a basis for a whole range of discovery protocols. Pity.
>
> - S
>
>
> On 29/1/04 11:47 am, "Paul Hollands" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > I share your disappointment that they don't seem to be
> working with or
> > at least investigating the SRW stuff.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Andy Powell wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Phil Barker wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2) CEN/ISSS Work on Simple Query Interface has started
> >>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Together with the ARIADNE consortium and the European
> Schoolnet, the ELENA
> >>> consortium has successfully initiated the standardization
> work on a simple
> >>> query
> >>> interface for learning object repositories. The goal of
> this initiative,
> >>> which
> >>> is hosted by the CEN/ISSS, is to develop a common
> communication framework
> >>> for
> >>> exchanging queries between heterogeneous educational
> nodes. We consider this
> >>> work as an important milestone for building so called
> "Smart Spaces for
> >>> Learning". The first release of the specification will be
> announced in this
> >>> mailing list(*).
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> More information on Elena can be found here
> http://www.elena-project.org/
> >>> and
> >>> public draft 0.51 of SQI can be found at:
> >>> http://nm.wu-wien.ac.at/e-learning/interoperability/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> It seems a shame that this doesn't build on SRW, about
> which it says
> >>
> >> --- cut ---
> >> SRW takes advantage of CQL ("Common Query Language"), a
> powerful query
> >> language, which is a human-readable-string
> query-representation. SRW has
> >> many similarities with the specification presented in this
> paper. It
> >> introduces two main methods searchRetrieveRequest and
> >> searchRetrieveResponse, both, with quite a number of
> parameters. Return
> >> schemas are determined by the target system. No listener method is
> >> supported.
> >> --- cut ---
> >>
> >> but doesn't really explain why something new had to be invented.
> >>
> >> My gut feeling is that this proposal is probably fine if
> all you are
> >> interested in searching is learning object repositories -
> but if you
> >> acknowledge up front that most real-world services are
> going to want to
> >> search across lots of kinds of repositories, then you need
> standards that
> >> are more broadly based than just e-learning.
> >>
> >> But perhaps I'm being very unfair about it? I'd be
> interested in other's
> >> comments.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >> --
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> >>
> >>
> >
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