Hi Sally E
Oops It was me who was defending the style of my poem about Heptonstall
church yard..Sally J
>From: Sally Evans <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: new sub Heptonstall church yard - James
>Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:29:16 +0100
>
>Hi James, I wasnt necessarily defending the style, but it is something that
>tends to go with hard rhythm and it is paerhaps because society became less
>ahrd-and-fast in its pinions that we went away frm rhyme to the more
>hesitant free verse styles. The most oobvious place for rhyme tday is in
>funny poems (heard John Hegley among others last night at Morden Tower's
>fortieth birthday in Newcastle) but there are other uses too if we get it
>right - not too heavily decamatory!
>best
>SallyE
>
>on 17/6/04 1:00 pm, James Bell at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Yes, I think you are right to defend your style, as we do need to go
>with
> > how things move us.
> >
> >
> >
> > bw
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Sally James <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: new sub Heptonstall church yard
> >> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:05:39 +0100
> >>
> >> Sorry you found it a bit OTT. Maybe it is but it was just my way of
>seeing
> >> things that day I suppose but will admit "woman's weeping" is a bit
>much,
> >> But women do weep over Sylvia Plath's grave She was a depressive and
>went
> >> though a lot of emotional suffeing in her short life and her suicide
>was so
> >> untimely and what other poems would we have seen if this hadn't
>happened.
> >> There is an inscription on her grave about a flower blooming in
>fiercest
> >> flames which I thought was a very apted description of her. I was
>always
> >> told I used too many poetry words in my MA too. But we are all
>individuals
> >> I suppose and as I always write from my heart and what I am feeling at
>the
> >> time guess this will always happen with me. Sally J
> >>
> >>> From: James Bell <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Re: new sub Heptonstall church yard
> >>> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:01:40 +0000
> >>>
> >>> I'm assuming this is the grave of a well known literary figure. One of
>the
> >>> Bronte's, Emily or Charlotte. I thinkmit does a lot of unnecessary
>scene
> >>> setting and the tone ends up being mannered, is the word that comes to
>me.
> >>> I think with a little more work you could dispense with some lazy
>stock
> >>> phrases from the book of poet's bad phase day compendium. Sorry this
> >>> sounds harsh. Phrases like "grave of woman's weeeping", "tipsy grave
> >>> stones", "petals bloomed in fiercest flames" "and tears erupted".
>These
> >>> are all very so so. I think the overall idea is of interest but its
> >>> execution needs a little refining. Hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bw
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Sally James <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>> Subject: new sub Heptonstall church yard
> >>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:30:47 +0100
> >>>>
> >>>> Heptonstall churchyard
> >>>>
> >>>> Some bizarre twist of fate brought me here
> >>>> to this place, this grave of woman’s weeping
> >>>> The day was sunny, the blossom swayed
> >>>> lent its perfume to the moor land wind
> >>>> but by the church,
> >>>> great gusts carried my breath away
> >>>> tangled my hair, blew my skirt above my knees
> >>>> I don’t know why I came at all
> >>>> I was out for pleasure, to see the countryside
> >>>> look for somewhere new to hang my hat
> >>>> The church tower looked fierce
> >>>> frowned, as I trod the cobbles
> >>>> the narrow streets
> >>>> searched the tipsy grave stones
> >>>> that leaned port side in the
> >>>> early summer’s howl
> >>>> I had to ask of course
> >>>> “Many visitors come,” he said
> >>>> then pointed, told me
> >>>> where the woman lay
> >>>> But today, there was only me
> >>>> pacing up and down the ranks
> >>>> inspecting, looking for the poet
> >>>> whose petals bloomed in fiercest flames
> >>>> I found the plot at last
> >>>> and tears erupted, spilled
> >>>> upon her flowered bed
> >>>> and as I cried, the church bell tolled
> >>>> Three times.
> >>>>
> >>>> sally james
> >>>>
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