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Subject:

Re: TREATMENT SERVICE - In Conclusion

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"Harrop, Chris" <[log in to unmask]>

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Occupational Health mailing list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:04:01 +0100

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Thank you Elaine, it was nice to read your sensible conclusion to a topic on
the mail base and to feel comments were valued in some way.   We all know
Occ Health is unique and furthermore we do not live each others pathway of
professional life.  Whatever methods we choose when practising, I would
anticipate we all feel we do our best and aim to comply with regs and code
of conduct at that time, also knowing the circumstances, whilst putting the
needs of those in our care first.   I know, I for one, don't always get this
balancing act right and welcome constructive criticism, but would be upset
if I did my very best and someone came in and ripped it to pieces.   I felt
the point you made was very valid and the sharing of professional knowledge
is so valuable, however I do feel sad when I see criticism that appears (on
face value) not to be constructive or justified.

So thanks for making your point clearer, though it is not really any of my
business, now reading your mail it is evident you have been much more
sensitive than it first appeared and on reflection I could have put my point
over better too.     I know so little in this huge minefield however I do
feel qualified to agree many services are outdated and I am certain we could
always do more to bring things up to date, but I believe there is a gentle
method and a bull in a china shop method.    I have witnessed - the bulls
don't often win and consequently feel conflict and change hard to bring
about.

Whilst I question the worth of some comments added to the mail base, I would
personally like to thank contributees for the valuable chain of contact and
constructive comments that enable Occ Health professionals to pool
information, evaluate practices and feel part of a team even when isolated.
I feel I benefit professionally from this.  So once again thank you.


Regards

Kaaren

Ext 3311  Page 157



-----Original Message-----
From: Elaine Dobson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 02 February 2004 13:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: TREATMENT SERVICE - In Conclusion



Dear All



Thank you to all of you who contributed to this debate on the role of the
OHNA with regards to treatment service.  There appears to be a great range
of practice out there, and my own attitude and experience was that most OH
services were trying to reduce or completely abandon the treatrment part of
their service for all the reasons that have been given re cost effectiveness
and under use of first aiders and the need for prevention to be "upstream as
well as downstream".



However, all those list members who suggest compromise, and awareness of
current company culture, as well as promoting positive change slowly, I
thank you, as I have been reminded that perceived needs assessment ( from
all levels of employees) is as important as actual needs assessment (
statutory requirements).



I apologise for the "undertones" which may have been taken from my original
query, as I was surprised to find such an "old fashioned" service within the
company I was assessing.  I have no intention of returning to Uniform,
however proud I am of my nursing background, as I feel it is important to be
able to approach OH from a social model as well as from a purely medical
model.  I find that wearing a suit bridges the gap from the shop floor to
senior management and board room level, as OH influence important at all
levels of an organisation.



Many thanks again especially to Clare, Margaret, Kaaren, Diane, Lindsey,
Chris and David.................It is a big world out there!



Regards



Elaine



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