Hi Bob

As an OH Practitioner of many years (30 to be exact) and starting my OH
career with the certificate and then moving up.  I agree there is a real
place for experience and us old dogs may not have degrees, but we have been
around the block a bit, or at least I have!!  Gaining expertise from any
source can  benefit OH.

Lynn Holland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dunn"
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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: OH qualification


> Hear, Hear, John, at long last a pragmatic and sensible contribution to
the
> debate.
> I concur, in the past I have worked with 'degree' nurses who could barely
> take a blood pressure correctly.  When I appoint OH advisers I look for
> ability and experience not paper qualifications.  The 'degree' is like a
> cars' MoT, only good at the time of finishing the course, not an
indication
> of ability/capability a period of time in the future.  Give me a
practical,
> flexible, experienced practitioner that has sound up-to-date skills and
> common sense every time, whether they have attained a degree or not!
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Caffrey" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: OH qualification
>
>
> > MessageHi Everyone
> >
> > The one thing that seems to be a recurrent theme on this site is how you
> > need a specialist practitioners qualification to be able to practice
> > effectively in OH.  I would rather employ someone with experience and
> > proof of professional updating and use of current best practice in the
> > field rather than just a paper qualification that shows that they can
> > write an essay.  I am not belittling qualifications and am studying
myself
> > at University right at this moment.  But a degree does not show that you
> > are putting any of that obtained knowledge into practice.  I have worked
> > for degree qualified nurses (not in OH by the way) who did not follow
best
> > practice but preferred their own way because they knew best.
> >
> > If we could spend half as much time supporting each other rather than
> > pulling each other down just think about how far we as a profession
could
> > go!  Yes it might be the ideal that everyone has a degree and I am not
> > arguing against that - but lets gets some realism into the situation -
not
> > everyone can get one due to personal, financial or work situations.
> > Perhaps we should spend more of our time campaigning for more flexible
> > courses so that they are more readily accessible.
> >
> > Sorry about the rant
> >
> > John Caffrey
> > Occupational Health Advisor
> > Lever Faberge Ltd. - Leeds
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sara Werry [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 01 June 2004 10:34
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: OH qualification
> >
> >
> >   Hi All
> >
> >   I have read the emails about OH qualifications and I consider we are
> > missing the point somewhere, specific OH qualifications give an
individual
> > an in-depth understanding of the relationship between health and work
but
> > they  could not hope to give the vast areas of specialist knowledge for
> > all the practice that may be required of an OH professional.
> >
> >    A Registered Mental health Nurse or cognitive Behavioural Therapist
> > would be more qualified to deal with OH mental health issues, an
> > Occupational Therapist would be far more qualified in certain areas of
OH
> > rehabilitation and the list could go on.
> >
> >   We need to accept that as the OH professional we are the conductor in
> > the work health issues but need to draw on an orchestra of other
> > specialisms of knowledge to provide an effective OH service.
> >
> >   So why does it seem strange that someone with an educational
> > qualification runs an educational website for OH ????
> >
> >   Apologies for rant but I couldn't help myself.......
> >
> >   Sara Werry
> >   Occupational Health Adviser
> >   Occupational Health Service
> >   University of East Anglia
> >   Norwich, NR4 7TJ
> >   Tel: (01603) 592174
> >   Fax: (01603) 506579
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