Here, here, Wendy.
Such snobbery lends itself to elitism. Sue, I commend you!
Thank you for your input and please keep up the work,
Neil Loach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colbert, Wendy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: another OH site???
> Personally I admire the factor that Sue took the time and effort to set up
> the site. I have used the site many times for information and/or links
and
> to be arguing about its validity does not lend credence to the OH title.
> It's very usefulness to us in OH also helps spread the concept to non
> related professionals.
>
> It was through this site that I came across this site, so keep up the good
> work Sue and Thank you.
>
> Wendy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracie McKelvie [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 28 May 2004 02:34
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: another OH site???
>
>
> HERE HERE !!!
>
>
> THIS SITE HAS HELPED A LONSOME NURSE (NON OH QUALIFIED LOADS!!!!!!)
>
> <<< [log in to unmask] >>>
> Oh Greta, the site is an educational facility called UK Occupational
Health
> Nursing. It is not about me claiming to be an OH Nurse or about my own ego
> it is a facility which was set up to help others which is free, which I do
> not claim at all and in any way is set up by an OH Qualified Nurse. The
> domain name was chosed to attract OH Nurses and other allied professionals
> to it as a useful resource. It is for OH Nurses and allied professionals
to
> use if they wish and if it is of use as at the time I set it up there was
no
> other OH site like this in existence in the UK. It is a free resource, it
> has free and helpful information and downloads and links to good sites and
I
> pay for the domain name and webhosting myself and update the site in my
own
> time. It is purely and simply to help others for no gain. Many nurses have
> been helped by this site. Not particularly be myself but by the 140 nurses
> OH or non OH who have joined the mailing list and step in to help when I
> send out mailings for those seeking help from the message board. Why on
> earth should the RCN and NMC come into this? As an ad hoc agency nurse I
> work in A&E and don't hold specialist qualifications, I also work on SCBU
> and don't hold specialist qualifications, I work on PICU and don't hold
> specialist qualifications, I work in Elderly Care and don't hold
specialist
> qualifications but I get asked back again to work because people
appreciate
> genuine input and support for others! My aim is to help others if I can
and
> that goes for my colleagues who visit the UKOHN site or who are mailing
list
> subscribers. I am also up to date with Care Standards required of me by
the
> agencies I work for so am allowed to work in OH even as a non specialist
> practitioner. Ask OH Recruitment, Cheviot and other reputable
organisations
> who have RGN non qualified nurses on their books. Many of us work out
there
> in OH settings or industry who for one reason cannott undertake relevant
> qualifications at present. As for the title OH Nurse I was called this as
a
> non qualified Professional when I worked at one particular Council some 2
> years ago. I did not ask for this title - it was the one thought most
> appropriate to describe the role and the very commendable Senior Nurses
> there who supervised my work did not worry about this - they knew I had no
> Specialist Qualifications and neither did at least one Senior Nurse there
> who held the title Senior OH Nurse! Her OH Certificate is defunct today
and
> she is still practicing and doing a good job out there - with the same
> title. We could debate this forever and go round in circles. If this list
> decides the site is guilty of misrepresentation and abuse of the OH
> Profession in any way, sad though it will be for users and visitors it
will
> come down and I will sell the domain name! Any offers out
> there?-----Original Message-----
> From: Greta Thornbory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 27 May 2004 23:12
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: another OH site???
>
>
> Although of course I understand your personal circumstances. However, I
> would still value what other OH practitioners think of the internet site -
> especially as both the RCN and the NMC require both practice and
> qualifications in OH. In OH journal I recommend internet resources to
> readers every month and check these regularly. I also make comments on the
> validity of these sites - not only from my own view point but from other
> qualified OH practitioners. I am making no comment about the quality of
your
> site, but asking other practitioners what they think and feel about a site
> entitled 'ohnurse.co.uk' which is not run or maintained, nor has any input
> from a qualified practitioner in the field. Its a bit like me - as a
> qualified teacher and previous senior university lecturer setting up a
site
> for them - I am not sure I would have much credibility!
>
> What do my colleagues out there think?
>
> Greta
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue Mclaren" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: another OH site???
>
>
> > Hi Greta, that person is me. I think I did explain to you in my email
why
> I
> > did not answer emails at that time - my dad died I had been nursing him
> with
> > cancer for 4 months and we buried him on Xmas Eve, around the time of
your
> > email so quite a few emails got left - not only your own. If I did not
> give
> > that explanation I gave it to others and do apologise if my lack of
> > information confused you. As explained I have found these emails
recently
> > (when you get over 100 mails a day for a site you do get rather snowed
> > under) I think I also apologised to youfor my delay in replying. Yes, I
> have
> > no OH qualifications. I have posted on this group and said previously
that
> > although I do not have such qualifications I do have a history of good
> > training by some excellent OH Qualified practitioners (check the
archives
> of
> > this list for proof of this)-some who post here incidentally and during
> one
> > of our debates in the mailing list I did mention all of this and say
that
> I
> > did have a first class hons degree in education which had prepared me
for
> > research based practice and some aspects of OH. I have my reasons for
not
> > taking the degree - personal and ongoing long term carers committments
so
> > yes it may be all a bit strange but that's my story. I think if you
check
> > the site you will find I have lot's of valuable experience both in OH
and
> > Industry. Alternatively I can send my email for validity and checking by
> > those who may wish to see this. I also as an ex Nurse Teacher and Senior
> > Education Manager set the site up primarily as an educational facility
and
> > the message board on the site will demonstrate this if you read some of
> the
> > messages. The site mailing list helps others get in touch (both non OH
> > Qualified and Qualified OH Nurses) I have been very open in this mailing
> > list about not having the OH Degree, Cert or Diploma and never have
never
> > professed to be something I am not so if this is all a bit strange I
> > apologise If I have offended your sensibilities. Do you wish me to take
> the
> > site down because I am non OH Qualified, or because I am a midwife/RMN
or
> I
> > am a bit (debatable some may call me a lot) strange! Kindest regards,
Sue
> > Mclaren http://www.ohnurse.co.uk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greta Thornbory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 27 May 2004 22:13
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: another OH site???
> >
> >
> > About 3 years ago I found a site on the internet www.ohnurse.co.uk and
> > emailed the person running the site - who it appeared had no OH
> > qualifications or experience. She actually answered me this week!!!!!
Not
> > saying much except that she was a midwife and worked in mental health.
> Now -
> > am I going a bit loopy in my old age or is all this a bit strange? Have
a
> > look and let me know what you think - please? I would value your
> > comments.............
> >
> > Greta Thornbory
> > Consultant, Occupational Health & Education
> > www.gtenterprises-uk.com
> > Tel: 01235 770156
> > Mob: 07778 518 027
> >
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