Hey
Personally I thinks Sues site is a useful tool and don't see any problem
with the content.
It doesn't claim to be an accademic based site, doesn't claim to be an OH
guru and does not seem to offer specific advice.
Its a resource that links people to other areas where there is specialist
info available and it does this reasonably well.
As critisism of the site I would say some of the stuff, primarily in the
resources/dowloads/links does not have any relavence to me (Sorry Sue)
particullarty the links section which I had to search to weed out the good
info.
I have to say that I applaude the site for what it is and agree that more OH
focused sites are needed. There is a lot of OH info out there but mostly in
subject specific sites.
We have had a link for this site on our website for some time and if
ohadvisor.com pans out in the direction it seems to be heading, we'll be
putting a link to it as well.
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Mclaren" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: another OH site???
> Oh Greta, the site is an educational facility called UK Occupational
Health
> Nursing. It is not about me claiming to be an OH Nurse or about my own ego
> it is a facility which was set up to help others which is free, which I do
> not claim at all and in any way is set up by an OH Qualified Nurse. The
> domain name was chosed to attract OH Nurses and other allied professionals
> to it as a useful resource. It is for OH Nurses and allied professionals
to
> use if they wish and if it is of use as at the time I set it up there was
no
> other OH site like this in existence in the UK. It is a free resource, it
> has free and helpful information and downloads and links to good sites and
I
> pay for the domain name and webhosting myself and update the site in my
own
> time. It is purely and simply to help others for no gain. Many nurses have
> been helped by this site. Not particularly be myself but by the 140 nurses
> OH or non OH who have joined the mailing list and step in to help when I
> send out mailings for those seeking help from the message board. Why on
> earth should the RCN and NMC come into this? As an ad hoc agency nurse I
> work in A&E and don't hold specialist qualifications, I also work on SCBU
> and don't hold specialist qualifications, I work on PICU and don't hold
> specialist qualifications, I work in Elderly Care and don't hold
specialist
> qualifications but I get asked back again to work because people
appreciate
> genuine input and support for others! My aim is to help others if I can
and
> that goes for my colleagues who visit the UKOHN site or who are mailing
list
> subscribers. I am also up to date with Care Standards required of me by
the
> agencies I work for so am allowed to work in OH even as a non specialist
> practitioner. Ask OH Recruitment, Cheviot and other reputable
organisations
> who have RGN non qualified nurses on their books. Many of us work out
there
> in OH settings or industry who for one reason cannott undertake relevant
> qualifications at present. As for the title OH Nurse I was called this as
a
> non qualified Professional when I worked at one particular Council some 2
> years ago. I did not ask for this title - it was the one thought most
> appropriate to describe the role and the very commendable Senior Nurses
> there who supervised my work did not worry about this - they knew I had no
> Specialist Qualifications and neither did at least one Senior Nurse there
> who held the title Senior OH Nurse! Her OH Certificate is defunct today
and
> she is still practicing and doing a good job out there - with the same
> title. We could debate this forever and go round in circles. If this list
> decides the site is guilty of misrepresentation and abuse of the OH
> Profession in any way, sad though it will be for users and visitors it
will
> come down and I will sell the domain name! Any offers out
> there?-----Original Message-----
> From: Greta Thornbory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 27 May 2004 23:12
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: another OH site???
>
>
> Although of course I understand your personal circumstances. However, I
> would still value what other OH practitioners think of the internet site -
> especially as both the RCN and the NMC require both practice and
> qualifications in OH. In OH journal I recommend internet resources to
> readers every month and check these regularly. I also make comments on the
> validity of these sites - not only from my own view point but from other
> qualified OH practitioners. I am making no comment about the quality of
your
> site, but asking other practitioners what they think and feel about a site
> entitled 'ohnurse.co.uk' which is not run or maintained, nor has any input
> from a qualified practitioner in the field. Its a bit like me - as a
> qualified teacher and previous senior university lecturer setting up a
site
> for them - I am not sure I would have much credibility!
>
> What do my colleagues out there think?
>
> Greta
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue Mclaren" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: another OH site???
>
>
> > Hi Greta, that person is me. I think I did explain to you in my email
why
> I
> > did not answer emails at that time - my dad died I had been nursing him
> with
> > cancer for 4 months and we buried him on Xmas Eve, around the time of
your
> > email so quite a few emails got left - not only your own. If I did not
> give
> > that explanation I gave it to others and do apologise if my lack of
> > information confused you. As explained I have found these emails
recently
> > (when you get over 100 mails a day for a site you do get rather snowed
> > under) I think I also apologised to youfor my delay in replying. Yes, I
> have
> > no OH qualifications. I have posted on this group and said previously
that
> > although I do not have such qualifications I do have a history of good
> > training by some excellent OH Qualified practitioners (check the
archives
> of
> > this list for proof of this)-some who post here incidentally and during
> one
> > of our debates in the mailing list I did mention all of this and say
that
> I
> > did have a first class hons degree in education which had prepared me
for
> > research based practice and some aspects of OH. I have my reasons for
not
> > taking the degree - personal and ongoing long term carers committments
so
> > yes it may be all a bit strange but that's my story. I think if you
check
> > the site you will find I have lot's of valuable experience both in OH
and
> > Industry. Alternatively I can send my email for validity and checking by
> > those who may wish to see this. I also as an ex Nurse Teacher and Senior
> > Education Manager set the site up primarily as an educational facility
and
> > the message board on the site will demonstrate this if you read some of
> the
> > messages. The site mailing list helps others get in touch (both non OH
> > Qualified and Qualified OH Nurses) I have been very open in this mailing
> > list about not having the OH Degree, Cert or Diploma and never have
never
> > professed to be something I am not so if this is all a bit strange I
> > apologise If I have offended your sensibilities. Do you wish me to take
> the
> > site down because I am non OH Qualified, or because I am a midwife/RMN
or
> I
> > am a bit (debatable some may call me a lot) strange! Kindest regards,
Sue
> > Mclaren http://www.ohnurse.co.uk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greta Thornbory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 27 May 2004 22:13
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: another OH site???
> >
> >
> > About 3 years ago I found a site on the internet www.ohnurse.co.uk and
> > emailed the person running the site - who it appeared had no OH
> > qualifications or experience. She actually answered me this week!!!!!
Not
> > saying much except that she was a midwife and worked in mental health.
> Now -
> > am I going a bit loopy in my old age or is all this a bit strange? Have
a
> > look and let me know what you think - please? I would value your
> > comments.............
> >
> > Greta Thornbory
> > Consultant, Occupational Health & Education
> > www.gtenterprises-uk.com
> > Tel: 01235 770156
> > Mob: 07778 518 027
> >
> >
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