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Subject:

Re: missing ballot papers

From:

Tim Fletcher <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Chartered Library and Information Professionals <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:50:29 -0000

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I'm sorry but I think my 3 papers beat that!

I will be contacting CILIP this morning.

Tim
-----------------------
Tim Fletcher
Library Systems Manager
Birkbeck College

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frank Daniels
> Sent: 07 November 2004 12:06
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: missing ballot papers
> 
> from Frank Daniels <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> I received two consecutively numbered ballot papers (tucked 
> inside Gazette).
> What should I do now? hehe!
> 
> 
> 
> Frank Daniels
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals 
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: Recipients of LIS-CILIP digests <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: LIS-CILIP Digest - 5 Nov 2004 to 6 Nov 2004 (#2004-226)
> >Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:00:04 +0000
> >
> >There are 5 messages totalling 1036 lines in this issue.
> >
> >Topics of the day:
> >
> >   1. Available routes
> >   2. News From UKeIG :  UKOLUG becomes UKeIG
> >   3. Re : 44% of us earn #17K (or less) - the figure is actually 36%
> >   4. missing ballot papers (2)
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> >
> >Date:    Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:16:38 +0000
> >From:    Fiona McLean <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Available routes
> >
> >OK, here's some info following some searching I have done. 
> All in one 
> >place to save the rest of you some time (perhaps) Sorry for 
> the length.
> >
> >1. 'How cilip works'
> >(Full details from CILIP page are at the end of this message, from
> >http://www.cilip.org.uk/aboutcilip/howcilipworks.)
> >
> >Information from the CILIP website states that members 
> involvement in 
> >'democratic governance' is via: standing for office, voting, and 
> >raising issues at the AGM. Which of course most of us cant attend- 
> >during a working day, in London. And why should we without any 
> >experience of members input at past AGMs actually leading to 
> changes in 
> >CILIP policy? To take the example of the (imperfect) democracy in 
> >England, we have the right to contact our MP and expect them 
> to listen to us and act if they agree/can.
> >Its not only if you are a local activist for their party. And its 
> >addition to the elections.
> >
> >There clearly needs to be some other explicit, publicised 
> route that is 
> >shown to work  for grassroots to feedback/be involved. Then we could 
> >use it to send messages we felt were important to it/them, 
> as well as 
> >to this list.Is this via councillors?
> >
> >
> >If there is a route for views to national councillors,we 
> need to know 
> >how to contact them.
> >
> >Tony: there is a list of councillors on the CILIP website, 
> but not with 
> >any contact details (we need email addresses). Maybe there should be 
> >one generic contact email for the councillors so the work is 
> shared. We 
> >know the email address of 2 national councillors from their 
> messages to 
> >this list, but is it fair if they therefore become the ones 
> we use to 
> >pass on our views? Dont want to put councillors off posting 
> to this list.
> >
> >There are some emails on the CILIP site, but they are all 
> for staff. As 
> >it appears that this wont be a route to affect policy, its 
> probably not 
> >much help. The role of staff in any membership 
> organisation/charity is 
> >to implement policy decided by the councillors. Not to 
> create or change 
> >it
> >themselves- that needs approval. But if anyone wants to cc 
> their emails 
> >to
> >someone:
> >
> >[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> In the past he has 
> >taken many weeks to reply, but hopefully has speeded up.
> >'Policy and governance' : [log in to unmask] 
> ><[log in to unmask]> 'council and committees' 
> >:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >Fiona
> >
> >Webpage info:
> >'All Members of CILIP are encouraged to engage in democratic 
> governance.
> >CILIP's work is governed by its Council, supported by Committees, 
> >Panels, and Boards drawn from the Members of CILIP, usually 
> through a 
> >process of annual elections. The Honorary Officers play an important 
> >part. CILIP's Branches and Groups also hold elections to 
> their offices and Committees.
> >
> >All Members of CILIP are encouraged to engage in democratic 
> governance 
> >either by standing for office (in a Branch or a Group or at national 
> >level in CILIP itself) or - at the very least - by 
> exercising the right 
> >to vote in the various annual elections and other ballots 
> and surveys 
> >which are conducted from time to time as part of the process of 
> >consultation with the Membership.
> >
> >Members' active involvement in the governance of CILIP and 
> its Branches 
> >and Groups not only strengthens the democratic accountability of the 
> >organisation; it also provides an important opportunity for personal 
> >and professional development.
> >
> >All aspects of CILIP's work are governed by its Council, 
> supported by 
> >Committees, Panels, and Boards drawn from the Members of 
> CILIP, usually 
> >through a process of annual elections. Members can also make their 
> >voice heard through the Annual General Meeting when the 
> annual report 
> >and accounts of CILIP are presented for scrutiny by the 
> Membership at large.
> >
> >In this process of governance and accountability, the 
> Honorary Officers 
> >have an important part to play. The President of CILIP is elected 
> >annually by the Membership at large with the President, 
> >President-Elect, and Past President forming three of the six 
> Honorary 
> >Officers. The Honorary Treasurer is also elected by the 
> Membership at 
> >large, while the Chairs of Council and of the Executive Board are 
> >elected by the Council at the first meeting of the year.
> >
> >This process of democratic governance is mirrored by CILIP's 
> Branches 
> >and Groups, which also hold elections to their various 
> offices and Committees.'
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date:    Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:38:14 -0000
> >From:    Robert Hughes <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: News From UKeIG :  UKOLUG becomes UKeIG
> >
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
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> >kili.jiscmail.ac.uk id iA6AhZcQ024743
> >
> >UKeIG (UK eInformation  Group): For further details about 
> the Group and 
> >membership contact: Christine Baker, The Old Chapel, Walden, West 
> >Burton, Leyburn, North Yorkshire DL8 4LE
> >
> >Tel & Fax: 01969 663749
> >Email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >News from UKeIG: 6th day of November 2004: For immediate release
> >
> >
> >
> >UKOLUG becomes UKeIG
> >  The Group=92s name has changed.  The membership passed a motion at 
> >the 2= 6th UKOLUG AGM (8th June 2004) to change the 
> groups=92 name to 
> >UKeIG (UK eInformation Group), and now CILIP Council have 
> approved this 
> >name change.
> >
> >
> >
> >Gary Horrocks, the Chair of UKeIG commented,
> >
> >
> >
> >  =93UKeIGs=92 focus has increasingly become the 
> accessibility, use and 
> >management of electronic information,
> >
> >whether on the Internet, in online databases, on CD-ROM or via 
> >corporate networks and intranets.
> >
> >We are constantly evolving - in tune with the electronic information 
> >environment in the United Kingdom
> >
> >and further afield.=94
> >
> >
> >
> >Looking forward to the future he added:
> >
> >
> >
> >=93We are already planning one of our most extensive meetings and 
> >trainin= g programme with events in preparation
> >
> >  covering Copyright, e-books, internet searching and topic based 
> >events s= uch as Pharmaceutical and European
> >
> >Information.  This is a great time for those who haven=92t used our 
> >servi= ces before to benefit from UKeIG.=94
> >
> >
> >
> >UKeIG continues to offer a wide and dynamic range of expertise and 
> >servic= es to electronic information users
> >
> >as individuals or organisations, including a discussion 
> list, awards, 
> >advocacy and an informative website
> >
> >for e-information professional.  In the last year this website
> >(www.ukolug.org.uk) has been updated with
> >
> >exciting additions including the increasingly popular factsheets on 
> >topic= s such as =91How to Block Pop-Ups=92
> >
> >and =91Dealing with Spyware=92
> >
> >
> >
> >The UK eInformation Group is set to be unveiled at Online 
> Information 
> >200=
> >4
> >(Olympia Grand Hall London
> >
> >November 30-December 2) as part of an exciting new phase for the 
> >professional group founded in 1978 to
> >
> >provide support for users of the then new online information 
> retrieval
> >services.   Those interested in joining
> >
> >or finding out more about the group can meet UKeIG committee 
> members on 
> >Stand 203 at that event.
> >
> >
> >
> >Press Contact:           Rob Hughes, UKeIG Committee, PR and 
> Marketing
> >
> >                                   Email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Notes to Editors
> >
> >UKeIG (UK eInformation) Group - is a professional body for users and 
> >developers of electronic
> >
> >information resources.  Through its activities, UKeIG actively 
> >encourages communication and the
> >
> >exchange of knowledge among users of electronic information 
> resources. 
> >Th= e Group offers an
> >
> >annual training programme that provides affordable and practical 
> >workshop= s and seminars.
> >
> >These are open to both members and non-members, but there are 
> >discounted rates for members.
> >
> >Members of the Group also receive a bi-monthly printed 
> newsletter and 
> >exclusive access to the
> >
> >electronic journal, eLucidate.  UKeIG is a Special Interest Group of 
> >CILI=
> >P:
> >the Chartered Institute
> >
> >of Library and Information Professionals. Registered Charity 
> no. 313014
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >- Ends -
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The Group's name has changed.  The membership passed a motion at the 
> >26th UKOLUG AGM (8th June 2004) to change the groups' name 
> to UKeIG (UK 
> >eInformation Group), and now CILIP Council have approved 
> this name change.
> >
> >Gary Horrocks, the Chair of UKeIG commented,
> >
> >"UKeIGs' focus has increasingly become the accessibility, use and 
> >managem= ent of electronic information, whether on the Internet, in 
> >online databases, = on CD-ROM or via corporate networks and 
> intranets.  
> >We are constantly evolving - in tune with the electronic information 
> >environment in the Uni= ted Kingdom and further afield."
> >
> >Looking forward to the future he added:
> >
> >"We are already planning one of our most extensive meetings and 
> >training programme with events in preparation covering Copyright, 
> >e-books, interne= t searching and topic based events such as 
> >Pharmaceutical and European Information.  This is a great time for 
> >those who haven't used our service= s before to benefit from UKeIG."
> >
> >UKeIG continues to offer a wide and dynamic range of expertise and 
> >servic= es to electronic information users as individuals or 
> >organisations, includin= g a discussion list, awards, 
> advocacy and an 
> >informative website for e-information professional.  In the 
> last year 
> >this website
> >(www.ukolug.org.uk) has been updated with exciting additions 
> including 
> >th= e increasingly popular factsheets on topics such as 'How 
> to Block 
> >Pop-Ups' = and 'Dealing with Spyware'
> >
> >The UK eInformation Group is set to be unveiled at Online 
> Information 
> >200=
> >4
> >(Olympia Grand Hall London November 30-December 2) as part of an 
> >exciting new phase for the professional group founded in 1978 to 
> >provide support f= or
> >users of the then new online information retrieval services.   Those
> >interested in joining or finding out more about the group can meet 
> >UKeIG committee members on Stand 203 at that event.
> >
> >
> >Press Contact:           Rob Hughes, UKeIG Committee, PR and 
> Marketing
> >                         Email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >Notes to Editors
> >UKeIG (UK eInformation) Group - is a professional body for users and 
> >developers of electronic information resources.  Through its 
> >activities, UKeIG actively encourages communication and the 
> exchange of 
> >knowledge amo= ng users of electronic information resources. 
> The Group 
> >offers an annual training programme that provides affordable and 
> >practical workshops and seminars. These are open to both members and 
> >non-members, but there are discounted rates for members.  Members of 
> >the Group also receive a bi-monthly printed newsletter and exclusive 
> >access to the electronic journal, eLucidate.  UKeIG is a Special 
> >Interest Group of CILIP: the Chartered Institute of Library and 
> >Information Professionals. Registered Charity no. 313014
> >
> >
> >- Ends -
> >
> >
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> CILIP Council 
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> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
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> evolving - in tune 
> >= with the=20 electronic information environment in the 
> United Kingdom 
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> >MS'"></SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">=93We are=20 already planning one of our most extensive 
> meetings 
> >and training = programme with=20 events in preparation</SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;covering=20 Copyright, e-books, internet 
> searching and topic 
> >based events such as=20 Pharmaceutical and European </SPAN></P> <P 
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> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">Information.<SPAN=20
> >style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This is a great time for 
> >those = who=20 haven=92t used our services before to benefit from = 
> >UKeIG.=94<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal 
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> >MS'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">UKeIG=20 continues to offer a wide and dynamic range of 
> expertise 
> >and services to =
> >
> >electronic information users </SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal 
> >style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet 
> >MS'">as=20 individuals or organisations, including a 
> discussion list, 
> >awards, = advocacy and=20 an informative website </SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet 
> >MS'">for =
> >
> >e-information professional.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: 
> yes">&nbsp; = 
> ></SPAN>In the=20 last year this website (<A 
> >href=3D"http://www.ukeig.org.uk/"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"COLOR: black; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: = 
> >none">www.ukolug.org.uk</SPAN></A>)=20
> >has been updated with </SPAN></P>
> ><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">exciting=20 additions including the increasingly popular 
> >factsheets on topics such = as =91How=20 to Block Pop-Ups=92 
> ></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; 
> >LINE-HEIGHT: = 150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet 
> >MS'">and = =91Dealing=20 with Spyware=92<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
> ><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet 
> >MS'">The = UK=20 eInformation Group is set to be unveiled at Online 
> >Information 2004 (<I=20
> >style=3D"mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Olympia Grand Hall London = 
> ></I></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; 
> >LINE-HEIGHT: = 150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet 
> >MS'"><I=20
> >style=3D"mso-bidi-font-style: normal">November 30-December 
> </I>2) as = 
> >part of an=20 exciting new phase for the professional group 
> founded in 
> >1978 to = </SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 
> >0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">provide=20 support for users of the then </SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">new</SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'"> = 
> >online=20 information retrieval services.<SPAN 
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: = 
> >yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 </SPAN>Those interested in joining 
> </SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'">or 
> >= finding=20 out more about the group can meet UKeIG 
> committee members 
> >on Stand 203 = at that=20 event.</SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> class=3DMsoNormal 
> >style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 150%"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
> ><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 
> >150%"><STRONG><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">Press=20 Contact:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: =
> >12.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
> ;&nbsp;=20
> >Rob Hughes, UKeIG Committee, PR and 
> Marketing<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoBodyTextIndent style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
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> >0 [log in to unmask] </SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoBodyText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoBodyText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoBodyText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><STRONG><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">Notes to=20 Editors</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> class=3DMsoNormal 
> >style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">UKeIG<SPAN=20 class=3DmsoIns><INS cite=3Dmailto:Armstrong = 
> >dateTime=3D2004-10-11T08:13><FONT=20
> >color=3D#008080> </FONT></INS></SPAN>(UK eInformation) Group 
> - is a = 
> >professional=20 body for users and developers of electronic 
> ></SPAN></EM></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 
> >0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">information=20 resources.&nbsp; Through its activities, UKeIG 
> >actively encourages = communication=20 and the </SPAN></EM></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">exchange=20 of knowledge among users of electronic information 
> >resources. The Group = offers=20 an </SPAN></EM></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">annual=20 training programme that provides affordable and 
> >practical workshops and=20 seminars. </SPAN></EM></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">These=20 are open to both members and non-members, but 
> there are 
> >discounted rates = for=20 members.&nbsp; </SPAN></EM></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">Members=20 of the Group also receive a bi-monthly printed 
> >newsletter and exclusive = access=20 to the </SPAN></EM></P> <P 
> >class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier = 
> >New'">electronic=20 journal<SPAN class=3DmsoIns><INS 
> >cite=3Dmailto:Armstrong=20 dateTime=3D2004-10-11T08:14><FONT 
> >color=3D#008080>,</FONT></INS></SPAN>=20
> >eLucidate.&nbsp; UKeIG is a Special Interest Group of CILIP: the = 
> >Chartered=20 Institute </SPAN></EM></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal 
> >style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier 
> >New'">of=20 Library and Information Professionals. 
> Registered Charity 
> >no.=20 313014</SPAN></EM><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> class=3DMsoNormal 
> >style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet = 
> >MS'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
> ><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
> ><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
> 'Trebuchet MS'">- 
> >= Ends=20 -</SPAN><SPAN=20
> >style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; =
> >mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P 
> class=3DMsoNormal 
> >style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New 
> >Roman">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
> ><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>The 
> >Group's = name has=20 changed.&nbsp; The membership passed a 
> motion at 
> >the 26th UKOLUG AGM = (8th June=20
> >2004) to change the groups' name to UKeIG (UK eInformation 
> Group), and 
> >= now CILIP=20 Council have approved this name change.<BR><BR>Gary 
> >Horrocks, the Chair = of UKeIG=20 commented,<BR><BR>"UKeIGs' 
> focus has 
> >increasingly become the = accessibility, use=20 and management of 
> >electronic information, whether on the Internet, in = online=20 
> >databases, on CD-ROM or via corporate networks and 
> intranets.&nbsp; We 
> >= are=20 constantly evolving - in tune with the electronic 
> information 
> >= environment in the=20 United Kingdom and further 
> >afield."<BR><BR>Looking forward to the future = he=20 
> added:<BR><BR>"We 
> >are already planning one of our most extensive = meetings and=20 
> >training programme with events in preparation covering Copyright, = 
> >e-books,=20 internet searching and topic based events such as 
> >Pharmaceutical and = European=20 Information.&nbsp; This is a great 
> >time for those who haven't used our = services=20 before to benefit 
> >from UKeIG."<BR><BR>UKeIG continues to offer a wide = and=20 dynamic 
> >range of expertise and services to electronic information 
> users = as=20 
> >individuals or organisations, including a discussion list, awards, = 
> >advocacy and=20 an informative website for e-information 
> >professional.&nbsp; In the last = year=20 this website 
> >(www.ukolug.org.uk) has been updated with exciting = additions=20 
> >including the increasingly popular factsheets on topics such 
> as 'How to 
> >= Block=20 Pop-Ups' and 'Dealing with Spyware'<BR><BR>The UK 
> >eInformation Group is = set to=20 be unveiled at Online Information 
> >2004 (Olympia Grand Hall London = November=20 30-December 2) 
> as part of 
> >an exciting new phase for the professional = group=20 
> founded in 1978 
> >to provide support for users of the then new online = information=20 
> >retrieval services.&nbsp;&nbsp; Those interested in joining 
> or finding 
> >= out more=20 about the group can meet UKeIG committee 
> members on Stand 
> >203 at that=20 event.<BR><BR><BR>Press=20 
> >Contact:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
> >Rob = Hughes,=20 UKeIG Committee, PR and=20 
> >Marketing<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> &nbsp;&nbs
> >p;= 
> >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
> nbsp;&nbsp
> >;&=
> >nbsp;=20
> >Email: [log in to unmask]<BR><BR><BR>Notes to Editors<BR>UKeIG 
> >(UK =
> >
> >eInformation) Group - is a professional body for users and 
> developers 
> >of =
> >
> >electronic information resources.&nbsp; Through its 
> activities, UKeIG = 
> >actively=20 encourages communication and the exchange of knowledge 
> >among users of = electronic=20 information resources. The 
> Group offers 
> >an annual training programme = that=20 provides affordable and 
> >practical workshops and seminars. These are open = to 
> both=20 members 
> >and non-members, but there are discounted rates for = 
> members.&nbsp;=20 
> >Members of the Group also receive a bi-monthly printed 
> newsletter and = 
> >exclusive=20 access to the electronic journal, 
> eLucidate.&nbsp; UKeIG 
> >is a Special = Interest=20 Group of CILIP: the Chartered 
> Institute of 
> >Library and Information=20 Professionals. Registered Charity no. 
> >313014<BR><BR><BR>- Ends=20 -<BR></FONT></FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
> >
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date:    Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:55:22 +0000
> >From:    Ed Cole <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: Re : 44% of us earn #17K (or less) - the figure is 
> >actually 36%
> >
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> >
> >In my view, CILIP should concentrate on providing courses 
> which  'Develop'
> >CILIP members and not volunteers (see course listing).  If I 
> wanted to 
> >encourage volunteers, I would pay another organisation.  I 
> expect CILIP 
> >to fulfil its role of promoting and supporting the 
> profession in all spheres.
> >I'm sure that many local authorities feel that they needn't bother 
> >employing CILIP members when using volunteers will save them money.
> >
> >
> >Ed
> >
> >Alan Pritchard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >Oi! No slagging-off of us volunteers. We do a valuable job - 
> a lot of 
> >work gets done at Bournemouth that would not otherwise get 
> done (so I'm told).
> >And it does make sense for permanent staff to know something about 
> >managing volunteers. I don't know anything about the courses, but I 
> >wonder how many there are compared with all other courses.
> >
> >Best wishes
> >Alan Pritchard MPhil FCLIP MBCS
> >
> >ALCHEMY: a bibliography of English-language writings 2nd (Internet) 
> >edition at http://www.cix.co.uk/~apritchard
> >
> > >
> > > Are there any other CILIP members who like me are fed up 
> of seeing 
> > > CILIP running courses for managing volunteers. So much for 
> > > supporting the profession!
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> ><DIV>
> ><DIV>
> ><DIV>
> ><DIV>In my view, CILIP should concentrate on providing 
> >courses&nbsp;which&nbsp; 'Develop' CILIP members and 
> >not&nbsp;volunteers (see course listing).&nbsp; If I wanted to 
> >encourage volunteers, I would pay another 
> organisation.&nbsp; I expect 
> >CILIP&nbsp;to fulfil its role of promoting and supporting&nbsp;the 
> >profession in all spheres.&nbsp; I'm sure that&nbsp;many local 
> >authorities feel that they needn't&nbsp;bother employing 
> CILIP members 
> >when using volunteers will save them money.&nbsp;</DIV> 
> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> 
> <DIV>Ed<BR><BR><B><I>Alan Pritchard 
> >&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</I></B>
> >wrote:</DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> >BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Oi! No slagging-off of us 
> volunteers. 
> >We do a valuable job - a lot of work<BR>gets done at 
> Bournemouth that 
> >would not otherwise get done (so I'm told).<BR>And it does 
> make sense 
> >for permanent staff to know something about<BR>managing 
> volunteers. I 
> >don't know anything about the courses, but I wonder<BR>how 
> many there 
> >are compared with all other courses.<BR><BR>Best wishes<BR>Alan 
> >Pritchard MPhil FCLIP
> >MBCS<BR><BR>ALCHEMY: a bibliography of English-language 
> writings<BR>2nd
> >(Internet) edition
> >at<BR>http://www.cix.co.uk/~apritchard<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Are there 
> >any other CILIP members who like me are fed up of 
> seeing<BR>&gt; CILIP 
> >running courses for managing volunteers. So much for 
> supporting<BR>&gt; 
> >the profession!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
> >Ed<BR>&gt;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV><p>
> >                 <hr size=1> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, 
> >Helvetica, sans-serif"><a 
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> >
> >Date:    Sat, 6 Nov 2004 13:17:46 +0000
> >From:    vapid ness <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: missing ballot papers
> >
> >Mine came with the Gazette- I'd get in touch with Cilip asap.
> >
> >Carol.
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 18:38:35 -0000, Finney, Emma P 
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Am I right in thinking the ballot papers for the 
> subscription ballot
> >were to be included in the Gazzette ?
> > >
> > > If so, I am minus mine. Anyone else suffered from this ?
> > >
> > > Emma
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals on behalf of
> >Tassoni, Laura
> > > Sent: Fri 11/5/2004 5:30 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Cilip flat rate wrong and unnecessary
> > >
> > > I absolutely agree, this is what struck me from the outset - why 
> > > does it
> >have to be all or nothing?
> > >
> > > I will definitely be voting "No" to the proposal because 
> of the flat
> >rate idea, but feel frustrated that I therefore have to
> > > reject all the other parts of the proposal as well.
> > >
> > > Laura
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Laura Tassoni
> > > Information Adviser
> > >
> > > Learning Centre
> > > Sheffield Hallam University
> > > City Campus
> > > Pond Street
> > > S1 1WB
> > > Sheffield
> > >
> > > +44 (0)114 225 4700
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of No Name
> > > Sent: 05 November 2004 15:07
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Cilip flat rate wrong and unnecessary
> > >
> > > More apologies for cross posting!
> > >
> > > It is beyond question, I think, that the way Cilip administers
> >subscriptions is inefficient and needs reform. This does not imply
> > > a need to move to a poll-tax style flat rate. The foundation of 
> > > Cilip's
> >case for a flat rate is this: "We can't renew members
> > > automatically until we no longer have to ask what they 
> earn." This 
> > > is
> >not correct. In fact, Cilip will always have to notify
> > > members that their subscription is about to be renewed 
> and give them 
> > > the
> >option not to renew. A few weeks before the renewal date
> > > they could simply send out a notification like this:
> > >
> > > "Dear member, your subscription is due for renewal on [date]. You 
> > > may
> >either
> > >
> > > 1. If your circumstances have not changed since last year, do 
> > > nothing,
> >in which case your subscription will be automatically
> > > renewed at the same rate;
> > >
> > > 2. Notify us of a change in your income or employment status, in 
> > > which
> >case your subscription may be adjusted (see attached list
> > > of tariffs*);
> > >
> > > 3. Cancel the renewal, thereby ending your membership.
> > >
> > > * - NB if your circumstances have altered but not enough 
> to make you
> >eligible for a different tariff, you do not need to notify us
> > > of the change."
> > >
> > > Nobody at Cilip has been able to give any reason why this 
> could not 
> > > be
> >done, so why not keep the socially responsible and fair
> > > income-based subscription system, and switch to automatic renewal,
> >direct debit with discounts, and rolling renewal (each year
> > > after the member's joining date). This seems the fairest, most 
> > > efficient
> >and most equitable solution, and will avoid the decline
> > > in revenue per member that the flat rate would bring. I therefore
> >recommend that members (1) vote "no" to the flat rate and (2)
> > > ask Cilip to reform the current system along the lines 
> suggested above.
> > >
> > > Regards, Aran Lewis.
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date:    Sat, 6 Nov 2004 13:33:11 -0000
> >From:    "Morton, Marilyn" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: missing ballot papers
> >
> >My ballot paper is also missing. I checked through the 
> Gazette and the 
> >= wrapper three times to make absolutely certain.
> >
> >
> >Marilyn=20
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals = 
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wright Angela
> >Sent: 05 November 2004 18:47
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: missing ballot papers
> >
> >
> >I thought mine was missing too - until I found it tucked 
> inside the = 
> >Gazette itself, hidden with a leaflet.  I almost threw it 
> away until I 
> >realised what it was.  Packing error or cunning ruse?
> >
> >Angela
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Finney, Emma P [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: 05 November 2004 18:39
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: missing ballot papers
> >
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >Am I right in thinking the ballot papers for the 
> subscription ballot = 
> >were to be included in the Gazzette ?
> >
> >If so, I am minus mine. Anyone else suffered from this ?
> >
> >Emma
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals on behalf of = 
> >Tassoni, Laura
> >Sent: Fri 11/5/2004 5:30 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Cilip flat rate wrong and unnecessary
> >
> >I absolutely agree, this is what struck me from the outset - 
> why does 
> >it = have to be all or nothing?
> >
> >I will definitely be voting "No" to the proposal because of 
> the flat = 
> >rate idea, but feel frustrated that I therefore have to 
> reject all the 
> >other parts of the proposal as well.
> >
> >Laura
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Laura Tassoni
> >Information Adviser
> >
> >Learning Centre
> >Sheffield Hallam University
> >City Campus
> >Pond Street
> >S1 1WB
> >Sheffield
> >
> >+44 (0)114 225 4700
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals = 
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of No Name
> >Sent: 05 November 2004 15:07
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Cilip flat rate wrong and unnecessary
> >
> >
> >More apologies for cross posting!
> >
> >It is beyond question, I think, that the way Cilip administers = 
> >subscriptions is inefficient and needs reform. This does not imply a 
> >need to move to a poll-tax style flat rate. The foundation 
> of Cilip's = 
> >case for a flat rate is this: "We can't renew members automatically 
> >until we no longer have to ask what they earn." This is = 
> not correct. 
> >In fact, Cilip will always have to notify members that their 
> >subscription is about to be renewed and give them the = 
> option not to 
> >renew. A few weeks before the renewal date they could simply 
> send out a 
> >notification like this:
> >
> >"Dear member, your subscription is due for renewal on 
> [date]. You may = 
> >either
> >
> >1. If your circumstances have not changed since last year, 
> do nothing, 
> >= in which case your subscription will be automatically 
> renewed at the 
> >same rate;
> >
> >2. Notify us of a change in your income or employment 
> status, in which 
> >= case your subscription may be adjusted (see attached list of 
> >tariffs*);
> >
> >3. Cancel the renewal, thereby ending your membership.
> >
> >* - NB if your circumstances have altered but not enough to 
> make you = 
> >eligible for a different tariff, you do not need to notify us of the 
> >change."
> >
> >
> >Nobody at Cilip has been able to give any reason why this 
> could not be 
> >= done, so why not keep the socially responsible and fair 
> income-based 
> >subscription system, and switch to automatic renewal, = direct debit 
> >with discounts, and rolling renewal (each year after the member's 
> >joining date). This seems the fairest, most efficient = and most 
> >equitable solution, and will avoid the decline in revenue per member 
> >that the flat rate would bring. I therefore = recommend that members 
> >(1) vote "no" to the flat rate and (2) ask Cilip to reform 
> the current 
> >system along the lines suggested above.
> >
> >Regards, Aran Lewis.
> >
> >----------------------------------------------
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> >
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> >End of LIS-CILIP Digest - 5 Nov 2004 to 6 Nov 2004 (#2004-226)
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