With all due respect to CILIP's administrative problems, I'm afraid I cannot
agree with the flat-rate proposal. I can see a need to tidy up the present wage band
system but I personally see it as a fair system.
People are very lucky if their employer pays their subscriptions for them. Good luck to them. I wish mine did.
If there is a flat-rate subscription imposed then the better off will be even more better off whilst the lower paid, which constitute the majority of CILIP members will be worse off, having to pay more, in effect subsidising
the better paid. Is this fair?
As a comparison and as a previous member has outlined, income tax is paid according to earnings.
Council tax according to value of property.
A library student starting their first job will pay more because the majority
of them will be going into jobs that fall within the wage band that will have their subs increased.
Stephen Cook
Assistant Librarian: Systems & Technical Services
The Markland Library
Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
27 Sussex Place
Regent's Park
London.
NW1 4RG.
Tel: 020-7772-6309
Fax: 020-7262-8331
Website: www.rcog.org.uk
“Setting standards to improve women’s health”
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From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tony McSean
Sent: 08 June 2004 10:06
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Subject: Re: New flat-rate subscription for CILIP
The assumption behind the plan, as I understand it, that the changeover will be set up to be neutral in its effect on Cilip subscription income. Because of the distribution curve of members amongst the salary bands it is likely that most members will be paying about the same while the lower earners pay a bit more and the higher earners a bit less. No firm figures have been published because constitutionally it is the Treasurer alone who produces the new year's subscription recommendations which are then put before the AGM for approval.
As reported in the new Update I spoke very strongly in favour of the new proposals when they were debated at Cilip Council, and have been supoortive since the scheme was first aired at the recruitment and retention working party some time ago. The existing scheme is an administrative nonsense, taking a hugely wasteful amount of effort to administer. Every renewal round sees a more or less accidental haemorrhaging of members, which in turn means that the whole year's recruitment effort is taken up with trying to get back into membership those who lapsed by falling over the tailboard rather than by definite decision.
I can see the argument for a Marxian subscription system. This position was very eloquently expressed in Council, but in my view didn't put any dents in the proposal.
Like Charles Oppenheim I feel the need to declare my interest, which is that it makes no difference to me personally since my employer pays my subscription, and that over the dozen or so Cilip subs paid through my budget there will probably be a very small reduction.
Tony McSean
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I think the biggest gap in the information on the website is the lack of actual detail regarding the level of charges. It implies that these have been calculated, and yet doesn't give the actual figures.
Without this information it will be extremely difficult to make a judgement on whether or not we will all be better or worse off under this new system.
Alex
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From: Tassoni, Laura [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 June 2004 17:20
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Subject: New flat-rate subscription for CILIP
http://www.cilip.org.uk/member/newsubscription.html
Hi everyone, what do people think about these changes to the CILIP subscription system? Seems rather regressive to me. Have we had a consultation?
Laura
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