How is Cilip going to determine what is a low wage? What may be an OK wage
for a single person with no dependents will not be OK for a single person
with dependents (those with caring responsibilities or children). Is CILIP
going to introduce a form of means testing - is so I for one will not be
renewing my membership.
Jane Tomlinson

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Harper [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 07 June 2004 10:34
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New flat-rate subscription for CILIP


Agree absolutely, Laura; it is utterly regressive.

Perhaps the CILIP page should have a balancing set of FAQs: "what are the
advantages of the present system?" Here are some rejoinders to the answers
currently presented:

Why does CILIP's subscription system need to change? Because the present
system is over-complicated:
[it's been in existence for decades - surely IT should make it easier to
administrate? And, it's complicated for perfectly valid reasons - who says
it's "over"-complicated?. Having a 3-year transition period - now that does
sound complicated]

, hits members particularly hard at Christmas time,
[erm - I don't want to be churlish, but if you pay the lot in one go, it's
going to hit hard whenever it happens. Summer holiday time could be just as
bad. If that's a problem, there's surely already the means to spread the
burden. And, apart from new members, it would appear that Christmas is still
going to be when the bill appears]

  and results in subscriptions continuing to rise as your income does, even
though CILIP provides no additional services in return. [if CILIP has had
any  success in raising the income levels of its members, then it has
automatically provided an extremely valuable service to those benefitting
from higher incomes. The beauty of the current system is that, provided the
actual rates for each band don't rise, but bands are merely added at the top
of the tree, CILIP's income will increase together with the income of its
members.]

How will the new system work? Most personal members ..... will no longer
have to tell CILIP each year how much you earn. [If the choice is between
the laborious task of ticking a box on the renewal form, and paying a
substantially higher flat rate, I think many will cheerfully opt for the
former]

Can I get a discount even if I don't pay it all at once? Yes - if you go
onto Direct Debit. Then you will be able to pay by instalments throughout
the year if you wish, and still receive a discount on your subscription. [If
this doesn't already exist, it can be introduced without restructuring the
fees]

Are there any other ways I can save money on my CILIP subscription? [Hint -
negotiate through your union for employers who insist on CILIP membership to
repay all your fee]

Personally I would like to see lower income bands paying far less - even
free as Paul Catherall suggests. I'm also a bit perplexed by everyone's
nervousness about stating income range. How many people have access to this
information? Interesting that those on very low incomes are still going to
have to make a declaration - unfortunate discrimination if we really are so
sensitive about it.

Apologies for length of this!

Derek Harper
Programme and Information Coordinator
South West of England Regional Development Agency
01392 229358


-----Original Message-----
From: Tassoni, Laura [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 June 2004 17:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: New flat-rate subscription for CILIP


http://www.cilip.org.uk/member/newsubscription.html
Hi everyone, what do people think about these changes to the CILIP
subscription system?  Seems rather regressive to me.  Have we had a
consultation?

Laura
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Laura Tassoni
Information Adviser
Learning Centre
Sheffield Hallam University
0114 225 4700
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