Indeed. Despite the temptation, I am sitting here biting my tongue....

Julian Dawson
Senior Librarian
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Morris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:17
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Subscriptions


I'm not sure we should be discussing something which the sender withdrew.

Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA
51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671


-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kate Millin
Sent: 29 April 2004 10:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Subscriptions

This looks like a really good option - I would be interested in seeing CILIP
look at this as a way forward

Kate Millin
Assistant Head of Libraries (South)
Dudley Library
St James's Road
Dudley
DY1 1HR

Tel: 01384 814745
Mob: 07900 161942


-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Tony McSean
Sent: 28 April 2004 16:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Subscriptions


A quick summary of our conversation this morning.

Instead of having lower subscription bands based on income, it might make a
lot of sense to have a set of bands based on years since qualification.
For example, steadily reducing discounts on the full subscription rate for
the first three or four years after leaving library school.  Three
advantages:

1.  It gets away from the baggage of income-related subscriptions for ever.
You know what Cilip?LA is like for never actually fully letting go of
everything, and I could really see the impact of this important innovation
being rowed steadily back in the usual weaselly way.

2.  It's automatically managed by the subscription system - no-one ever has
to fill in a form at renewal and the direct debit could take care of it all
with no staff intervention.

3.  No opportunity for lying about your income.  From the income band
distribution figurtes I saw while chair of Ents I'm convinced that
wholesale adjustment of reality takes place every year at renewal time.

I'm sure the BMA's membership department would be happy to talk to the
people concerned about how this system works here, but having asked them I
am very happy to say that it works very smoothly indeed and the switch to
flat-rate subs with a graded post-qualification reduction has allowed us to
greatly reduce the size and costs of the membership department.

Tony



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