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Re: Chat: appropriate response for next time

From:

Sue Lacey Bryant <[log in to unmask]>

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Sue Lacey Bryant <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:28:45 -0000

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Great idea to rise above the individual but to go back to local schools to
help them with the problems they - and our teenagers - face, with sessions
on health, lifestyle and patient information:

Health sites for teenagers:
Health sites re. health issues that have to be managed within school
     inc. ADHD - asthma - diabes, dyslexia, dyspraxia, drug awareness,
eating disorders, exam nerves, mental health, through to sex ed.
Patient information for adults
Occupational stress

Rather than give a talk why not teach using their fantastic resources - IT
suites. whiteboards etc - to run workshops?

Sue

Sue Lacey Bryant  - BA Hons, Dip Lib, MSc, MCLIP
Independent Information Specialist

E-mail: [log in to unmask]
Mob:    0 777 34 77 55 2

"There are things known, and there are things unknown. And in between are
the doors."
Jim Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ellingham Susanne (RTF) NHCT"
<[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Chat: appropriate response for next time


> As a former teacher (7 years fulltime 13-18 year olds then locum, hospital
> tutoring  for another 10) and 10 years as a librarian (got the diploma and
> charter (at 50))
>
> I can tell you that the real problem is that she is jealous.
>
> Think of it:  you are teaching skills to people who are really interested,
> the syllabus isn't totally government driven (well not yet); you know you
> are doing something useful (as opposed to babysitting (possibly Rosemary's
> Baby) some of your client base) and **you aren't dealing with children all
> the time**.  OK, pay is better and holidays but I wouldn't swop back.
>
> I do support the idea of offering to do a talk on health libraries for
them
> (provided it fits into an appropriate tick box for their next Ofsted! -
> maybe citizenship or health)
>
> Susanne
> Hexham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liz James [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 09 November 2004 14:28
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Chat: appropriate response for next time
>
>
> FWIW, point the ignorant individual towards the Librarian Avengers web
site
> - http://www.librarianavengers.org/worship.html  Surely that says it all?
>
> Seriously, I would have words with her - she wouldn't like it if you
dissed
> her profession, so why on earth should she diss yours/ours?  If she's
> ignorant enough to believe you can become a librarian by osmosis, or just
> because "you like books" (aargh), there's no hope for her!  You could
always
> offer to do a talk on the subject for the kids!
>
> Liz
>
> Liz James
> Technical Services Librarian
> King's Fund
> 11/13 Cavendish Square
> London W1G 0AN
>
> Tel:  020-7307 2559  Fax: 020-7307 2805
>
> www.kingsfund.org.uk
>
> "No heaven wil not ever Heaven be
> Unless my cats are there to welcome me."
>
> "I have studied many philosophers and many
> cats.  The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior."
> Hippolyte Taine
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Juliet brown
> Sent: 09 November 2004 10:39
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: appropriate response for next time
>
>
> Deepest apologies if this matter is too trivial for some (in which case
stop
> reading) but the following has left me fuming and I would like to know
what
> to say when I next clap eyes on this person .....
>
> My son (11, 1st year high school) was having a discussion with a teacher
who
> lives locally and I sort of know.  She knows me enough to know I am a
> librarian, it transpires in the conversation that she doesn't think
> librarians have a real job as it is not like it is a profession (i.e
> teachers?) and we don't need training.  She went so far as to say it was a
> "wifey job" - apologies to all men who are not wives at the same time.....
>
> This left me fizzing, especially as I thought teachers had a hard
profession
> to defend so didn't diss on similar beings, it also infuriates me that
> someone can be trained/educated etc etc and still be a ignorant as ****
> despite it.
>
> To stop me fuming (I am almost combustible and need to calm  down a
little,
> I know) - what should I say to this woman next time I run into her (as
> opposed to run over her which I would prefer but could be messy) as like
> hell am I letting this one pass.
>
> cheers, Juliet (the one with steam coming out her ears)
>
>
>
> Juliet Brown
> Medical Librarian - Vale of Leven DGH
> Never lend books, for no one ever returns them.  The only books I have in
my
> library are books that other folks have leant me. (Anatole France)
>
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