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Re: Cambridge online journals?

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Lesley Crawshaw <[log in to unmask]>

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An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 26 May 2004 12:22:57 +0100

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Hi,

We also found exactly the same thing happened with many of our OUP titles as
well, where unless we specified online only our subscriptions defaulted to
print, which was not what we wanted.

Luckily we have a NESLI2 deal with both CUP and OUP for electronic access to
their journals, so we've been insulated from the problems that this would
have caused us if we hadn't. As it is many of our OUP and CUP subscriptions
defaulted to print for 2004. The renewals spreadsheet received from the
agent didn't assist in this matter as the entries for many of these titles
suggested that print with free online option was the norm. We are now aware
that we need to spell out exactly what format we want particular publishers
titles renewed as.

In fact the situation is becoming more and more complicated as more and more
publishers unbundle their subscriptions, with some using different
terminology to describe their subscriptions options e.g. Blackwell
Publishing is using Institutional Print Plus Premium Online, Print Plus
Standard Online or Premium Online Only.


Cheers
Lesley

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University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB UK
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-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lesley Boyle
Sent: 26 May 2004 10:49
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Subject: Cambridge online journals?


APOLOGIES to all for late response here. I actually put together a reply
within hours of John posting his question, and then eventually had to get
Lesley Crawshaw to help me work out why my posting to the list didn't work!
So thank you Lesley. And apologies to everyone else for the lateness of this
information.

John

I'd have to check into the particular circumstances of the University of
Kent, but here's some general information.

There are currently three subscription rates available: Bundle (print plus
online), Print only, Online only. There has been no change of policy for
Cambridge Journals. We have offered these three rates for the last three
years ever since the VAT authorities told us that we could no longer offer
'online free with print'. They insisted that VAT is levied on the online
portion of the bundle subscription therefore it could not be considered
free.

I suspect U of Kent subscriptions were of the Bundle variety in 2003 and
have been renewed as Print only. I will have to check this. (NB have now had
time to check this, of course, and this is indeed the case.)

For 2004 Swets automatically renewed all customers' Bundle subscriptions to
Print only. We understand that they warned everyone that they were going to
do this but some of you may have missed this information. There were also
some postings on various listservs. I suspect what you are seeing are the
effects of this. Your online access would have been graced by us until 31
March because Cambridge is one of the set of publishers that allow a grace
period for online access, and you would just begin to see your access
dropping off as further issues have been published since 31 March.

We have a 'continuing access' policy. Therefore you are still getting access
to the titles for which you purchased online access during 2003.

Ebsco did exactly the same thing for 2003 renewals! This seems to be a
policy of the major subscription agents - that when a choice becomes
available, they renew their customers to the cheapest option, unless they
hear otherwise. Except in our case print-only ISN'T the cheapest option;
online-only is (or the two are comparable)!

When Cambridge found out about this policy it asked for it to be changed,
and for customers to be clearly alerted to the consequences.

If you use Swets or Ebsco you should all be aware that this may have
happened to your subscriptions and check with them what you have actually
ordered. I'm sure they will be happy to help, and to arrange for you to
upgrade to Bundle or switch to Online only subscriptions if you desire it!

With best wishes

Lesley Boyle

_____________________________________
Lesley Boyle
Business Development Manager, Journals
Cambridge University Press
The Edinburgh Building, Shaftesbury Road, Cambridge CB2 2RU, UK

+44 (0)1223 325535

Go to http://www.journals.cambridge.org for our journals content Go to
http://www.cambridge.org for all other Cambridge information




"J.W.T.Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
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Cambridge online journals?






We subscribe to a number of Cambridge journals in paper form and have had
'free' access to these titles in e-form. We recently noticed that while we
still appear to have e-access to these titles the very latest issue is
withheld and an additional fee requested. Has this always been the case and
we just missed it or has the access policy changed recently? If the latter
were you told in advance or was it announced anywhere?

Regards,

John Smith,
The Templeman Library,
University of Kent.



_____________________________________
Lesley Boyle
Business Development Manager, Journals
Cambridge University Press
The Edinburgh Building, Shaftesbury Road, Cambridge CB2 2RU, UK

+44 (0)1223 325535

Go to http://www.journals.cambridge.org for our journals content Go to
http://www.cambridge.org for all other Cambridge information

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