At 3:51 PM +0000 3/19/04, Lesley Crawshaw wrote:
>Hi Eric,
>
>I hadn't even thought about this as a possibility. I tried it and imported
>the reference into EndNote 7 - it was effortless, which is excellent news -
>but I have a couple of queries - not sure whether these are down to EndNote
>or the OpenURL Resolver:
>
>1. EndNote recognises it as a generic reference not a journal article
a loose end on our side, which is fixed
>2. It didn't import the subtitle of the article
>3. It only imported the surname and not the initials of the author
link servers aren't omniscient, they only know
how to read the information in the OpenURL.
when the data is in the OpenURL, the link server
can send it on to the bibliographic software.
OpenURL 0.1 has the limitation that it doesn't
support multiple authors, which you'd really like
to have in a bibliographic data manager. The
XML-based openURL's in NISO OpenURL 1.0 don't
have this limitation, which is a good example of
why movement to the new standard is such a good
idea.
>4. It imported the title of the journal as Annals of the History of
>Computing, IEEE whereas I thought the title was IEEE Annals of the History
>of Computing
Interestingly, IEEE itself reports the title as
Annals of the History of Computing, IEEE. This
makes some sense for IEEE, because otherwise
their A-Z list would not be very helpful.
Title normalization is a double-edged sword when
it comes to linking. Many target services allow
links based on titles, but it's usually not just
any title. While IEEE is not one of these, you
can imagine that if IEEE thinks that the title is
"Annals of the History of Computing, IEEE" and
the link server uses the title "IEEE Annals of
the History of Computing", then links which use
title may not work. For this reason, a link
server's knowledgebase has to know what version
of a title to use when making links. This is also
why a certain percentage of links will fail if
you just use a 3rd-party tracking service to load
normalized titles into a link-server
knowledgebase- the 3rd party tracking service
should have the capability to export things like
"source title" and "journal key string" or else
the target linking may not work.
If it were up to me, bibliographic management
software would incorporate an issn-based title
authority so users wouldn't need to do title
cleanup.
>
>In other words some post import tidying up of the reference within EndNote
>is still required or have I misunderstood?
>
>Cheers
>Lesley
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eric Hellman
>Sent: 18 March 2004 16:32
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Reference Information Software and Full Text Electronic Journal
>Services
>
>
>OpenURL is one way to go. Many OpenURL resolvers, including ours, implement
>these types of links. Including the abstract is not something generally
>available; some publishers copyright their abstracts. Doing it this way,
>through a library service, helps to present a uniform user interface that
>works the same way across many databases and publishers.
>
>for example, try:
>http://isi.1cate.com/?genre=article&atitle=Memoirs%20of%20a%20software%20pio
>neer&title=Annals%20of%20the%20History%20of%20Computing%2C%20IEEE&issn=1058-
>6180&date=2002&volume=24&issue=4&spage=14&epage=31&aulast=Goetz
>
>and look at the bottom.
>
>see you all at UKSG,
>
>Eric
>
>At 3:11 PM +0000 3/18/04, Lesley Crawshaw wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have some responsibility at my institution for the reference
>>information software, EndNote. One of those responsibilities is that I
>>run training sessions on the use of EndNote for researchers, academic
>>staff and in some cases, undergraduate students.
>>
>>Whilst most database services and some electronic journals
>>services/publishers make it very easy to import bibliographic
>>information either directly into EndNote e.g. American Physical
>>Society, IEEE Explore, Highwire, IoP Electronic Journals,
>>ScienceDirect, and Synergy or via the use of a filter e.g. ingenta,
>>JSTOR, some electronic journals services do not appear to provide this
>>facility at all. Is this because they haven't perceived a need for such
>>a facility?
>>
>>Can anyone advise me if it is possible to import records from Wiley
>>InterScience or MetaPress sites into EndNote? If so - how?
>>
>>I also noticed that whilst Kluwer Online allows the importing of
>>individual citations into EndNote or other Reference Information
>>Management software, there is no option to include the abstracts or to
>>import a collection of marked/selected references into EndNote. In the
>>case of Emerald there doesn't appear to be an option to include the
>>abstracts in the information downloaded.
>>
>>Services such as ScienceDirect and Highwire make it very easy for users
>>to know that this facility is available when browsing issues or looking
>>at the results of a search. If one is using ingenta one can see it's
>>possible to download the results as an ASCII file, but the only other
>>information I could find about downloading information into EndNote was
>>in the Help: FAQs for Librarians - I can't see our users looking there
>>for their answers!! The information there was minimal. It would have
>>been helpful to have a link to the filter from those FAQs. Otherwise
>>it's a case of going to the EndNote site and figuring out that the
>>filter you need is Uncover. Maybe something for the new ingentaconnect.
>>
>>As RIS software is so important for researchers and the like, it is
>>very frustrating for users to see how easy it is to use it with some
>>electronic services, but not others. In these cases their only
>>alternative was either to cut and paste and then edit the information
>>or to input the relevant information by hand.
>>
>>Anyone else out there had these kind of problems?
>>
>>Cheers
>>Lesley
>>
>
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