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Re: Looking for a job?

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Sam King <[log in to unmask]>

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Sam King <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:16:27 -0000

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I am also on a low scale and get tired of other professionals telling me I
am being exploited and undervalued. To a degree I am, but I get more out of
my job than money!

I always remind myself that I have the option to get another job if I don't
like my salary or having to constantly fight the good fight to raise it to a
fairer scale, but I love my job and take a great deal of professional pride
in what I do.

We are also going to be undergoing a reassessment of all jobs within our
organisation in the next year and I hope that this will strengthen my case
for inceased renumeration. These things only change if we stick with it and
try to change things from the inside - sneering at those professionals who
work in the lower pay scales, but do the same work is not an answer - a
lower salary doesn't mean you are bad at your job!

We all need to raise awareness of professional salaries within our
organisations, but perhaps we should also raise awareness within the
profession regarding how we perceive those on lower salaries. Please don't
assume that individuals on the lower scale are without professional
qualifications/moral fibre/etc. Those of you lucky enough to be more highly
paid could perhaps bare that in mind before you hoot at the thought of only
being paid 15K and compare us to child killers (joking or not).

Enough rant!

Sam

Samantha King
NSCD
98 Chapeltown Road
Leeds
West yorkshire
LS7 4BH


-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Bruch [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 08 January 2004 15:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Looking for a job?


You got offered £15k, that's the top of my scale.This was one of the things
that annoyed me with the fire-fighters, they were saying it's impossible to
live on such a small amount, but many librarians and the specialties within
information work have to.

Incidently those of us out there with degrees pertinent to our jobs within
an NHS library should be on A & C 5 when Agenda for Change comes into force.
I'm currently trying to get hold of any job descriptions which would help me
with my case for being bumped up a grade (i'm currently A & C 4 on just over
£14k). I'm determined to get the higher grade but don't know if the powers
that be will see it the same way.

Sarah


Sarah Bruch
Multidisciplinary Library
Prince Philip Hospital
Dafen
Llanelli
Carmarthenshire
SA14 8QF

Tel/Fax: 01554 749301

>>> "E.S. Rees" <[log in to unmask]> 08-Jan-04 2:16:37 pm >>>I'm really glad that the issue of LIS staff being demoted within the sytemis at last being mentioned - so far these last 3 years NOBODY seemed to betaken this demotion of LIS staff seriously (look at some jobs - Actinglibrarian of a specialised medical library, appointed at AR1, in centralLondon - any receptionist makes more than 21k a year).A recent joke: applying for an indexer (specialised) job "to fit in withyour other academic duties" (not advertised in the CILIP supplement, that Irecall, which is usually taken to mean serious money). When I finally go tothe interview (the wait, the room I had to wait in, all was signalling"oh-oh" to me, but decided to be "positive"). The fact that they didn'tanswer my email regarding "salary negotiable" should have rung strong bells- the top salary for this was no more than 15k, pro rata (remember what asenior official said recently about the Ian Huntley case "what kind ofpeople you get for 15k ?").

Emilce Rees


>From: Sue Lawson <[log in to unmask]>>Reply-To: Sue Lawson <[log in to unmask]>>To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Looking for a job?>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:42:42 -0000>>Laura wrote "However I'm feeling quite positive about a pilot job>evaluation scheme>we're involved in at the moment.">>After recent job evaluations in Manchester Library and Information Service>librarians (scale 4-6) no longer exist and are to be replaced by Library>and Information Officers (scale 5). No formal library or information>management qualifications are necessary.>>Sue Lawson>Librarian>Manchester Library and Information Service>Central Library>St Peters Square>Manchester>M2 5PD>>Tel: 0161 234 1995>Fax: 0161 237 5974>Email: [log in to unmask] >>>**********************************************************************>This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and>intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they>are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify
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