If this carries on, I should think the moans about the moaning will
outnumber the original moans! Although perhaps some of these comments have
gone a little too far, I think perhaps a little discussion on a discussion
board is fairly healthy, and I've certainly found particularly the
information provided on current issues in Academic pay quite interesting
(and relevant!). It is also always interesting to compare pay and
conditions in different sectors, and feelings regarding the same!

Cheers!


Martin Kelleher
Senior Library Assistant
Bibliographic Services
Sydney Jones Library
University of Liverpool






--On 14 January 2004 10:28 +0000 Carol Ince <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Chartership takes a lot of work and its understandable
> that people question whether its worth it sometimes.
>
> While the thread did start out as a bit of a bitching
> and moaning session (which sometimes can act
> to support people who felt they were alone in feeling
> bad about some things), I do feel that the thread is starting to
> produce some positive comments.
>
> I remember that at college some of our bitching sessions
> were quite productive in the end- we'd start off moaning,
> realise that other people were having the same problems,
> and then end up talking about what could be done,
> how we might approach particularly obscure assignments,
> what a lecturer wanted in a particular piece of work.
>
> And of course, your own comment is moaning about moaning
> (Really not meant unkindly- just a positive observation   ;-)    )
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list for CILIP members working towards MCLIP status
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sue Farley
>> Sent: 14 January 2004 09:57
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:
>>
>>
>> I was under the impression that the point of this discussion
>> list was to
>> promote and encourage those of us who are embarking on
>> chartership. I take
>> that to include helpful observations as to how best we can do
>> this, and
>> supporting each other as we go along, with a positive outcome
>> - chartership.
>>
>>
>> Some discussions seem intent on pulling the profession to
>> pieces, (yes, I
>> totally agree with everything everyone has said regarding low
>> status, lousy
>> pay etc, having been in the profession for 20 odd years) but
>> I would like to
>> see some positive comments too. Lately the forum has become a
>> sounding board
>> for negative responses and moans.
>>
>> I'm not sure if anyone will agree (please be kind) This is
>> the first time I
>> have responded to the discussion list and I felt quite
>> strongly that I had
>> to voice my little opinion.
>>
>> Sue
>>




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