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[Fwd: VICTORIA Digest - 2 Mar 2004 to 3 Mar 2004 (#2004-64)]

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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 2 Mar 2004 to 3 Mar 2004 (#2004-64)
From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, March 4, 2004 6:00 am
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There are 26 messages totalling 850 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Injuries from tight-lacing
  2. Injuries from tight lacing? (2)
  3. A Metropolitan Murder
  4. Tight lacing - thanks
  5. Lancet
  6. Fwd: Re: Injuries from tight lacing? (2)
  7. George Eliot and Church (7)
  8. A Metropolitan Murder (2)
  9. "beating the devil's tattoo" (6)
 10. C3 Children
 11. news of eclipses
 12. Queen Victoria on film
 13. thanks for adulterated food

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 01:01:13 -0500
From:    Richard Fantina <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Injuries from tight-lacing

Chris Willis wrote:

"I'm dong some work on women's fashions of the
1870s, and I keep finding anecdotes about women
suffering horrendous injuries from lacing their corsets
too tight - cracked ribs, ruptured livers, etc."

Check out "She Cut Her Liver Right in Half" at the "Texts
About the Corset" webpage at
http://www.corsets.de/node82.html
See the homepage for scores of related articles:
http://www.corsets.de

Also: In the early chapters of Charles Reade's 1873
novel, A Simpleton, the title character becomes
seriously ill and the puzzled doctors finally decide that
her condition is the result of "tight-lacing." In his preface
Reade writes: "In A Simpleton, the whole business of
the girl spitting blood, the surgeon ascribing it to the
liver, the consultation, the final solution of the mystery,
is a matter of personal experience accurately recorded."


Richard Fantina
Florida International University
3000 NE 151 Street, AC1 381
North Miami, FL 33181

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 08:50:19 -0000
From:    Judith Flanders <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Injuries from tight lacing?

Valerie Steel's The Corset is a good introduction to the debate. If I
remember correctly (book not to hand), she points out that a collection
of corsets (in Leicestershire, I think) measures substantially more than
the 'average' measurements given for tight-lacing, more the kind of
measurement you would get today from a gym-bunny body. She suggests that
as the Leicestershire corsets seem to have been collected as
particularly pretty models, the disconnect between
medical/advertisement/illustration and actual practice may be large.

She also has a useful bibliography, in particular leading to works
discussing the possibility or otherwise that the corset/lacing debate in
the Englishwoman's Domestic Magazine was real or sub-pornographic
fantasy.

What struck me reading contemporary medical journalism was how much the
vocabulary focused on discipline: tight lacing was condemned as vanity,
but no corsets, or not sufficiently rigid corsets, were posited always
as a lack of self-discipline.

Best
Judith
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:19:17 -0000
From:    Chris Willis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A Metropolitan Murder

Hi!

Can I recommend another list member's book?

I've just read Lee Jackson's A Metropolitan Murder, which is a really
terrific crime novel with a Victorian setting.  Great stuff!

All the best
Chris
================================================================
Chris Willis
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www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

"a 'war on terrorism' cannot be won, unless the causes of terrorism are
eradicated by making the world a place free of grievances, something
that will not happen."  (Stella Rimington, 2002)

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:30:18 -0000
From:    Chris Willis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Tight lacing - thanks

Hi!

Many thanks to everyone who replied to my query about tight-lacing.

All the best
Chris
================================================================
Chris Willis
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www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

"Generally, an English Lit degree trains you to be a useless member of
the modern world and that's what I'm being in the only way I know how."
(Zadie Smith)
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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 08:05:56 -0500
From:    Sally Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Lancet

I want to make a public thank-you to Lesley Hall for letting us know
that the backfiles of *Lancet* are now online (through Science Direct).
Knowing that the current issues have been taken by our med-school
library online for some time, I e-mailed her to ask if she was SURE; she
pointed me to info on the Wellcome website, and with that in hand I
logged in to the Temple Medical School's library with my faculty ID. And
lo and behold, among their subscription databases is the whole of the
journal. Searching generated a printable bibliography right away.
Actually getting copies of the older materials requires a small fee, but
even so it's much cheaper in time and almost as cheap in money as making
an advance appointment for someone to unearth the old issues from the
library's dead storage and then taking the subway up to the medical
campus.

I guess I'm relieved to see that the articles on vivisection only became
available in September 2003 -- which was after I was already working on
copy-edited manuscript of my biography of Frances Power Cobbe. Thus I
don't feel so much of the sinking feeling you get when new materials
come to hand just too late.

But I did want to confirm this wonderful new resource and to thank
Lesley for telling us about it. If your university has a medical school,
or if you have (otherwise) access to the library of a teaching hospital,
you should know about it.

Sally Mitchell, English Department, Temple University: [log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:16:26 -0500
From:    Shannon Rogers <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Injuries from tight lacing?

In the Mutter Museum in Philadelphia, there is a skeleton described as
being from a woman who wore a corset for a lifetime.  Her rib cage is
horribly disfigured,
compressed upward and inward, and her spine looked a bit odd to me.
It's been a few years since I've seen it, so I don't remember if there
is any description of
what her organs looked like.

Best,
Shannon Rogers
[log in to unmask]


>>Chris Willis wrote:
>>
>> > I'm dong some work on women's fashions of the 1870s, and I keep
>> finding anecdotes about women suffering horrendous injuries from
>> lacing their corsets too tight - cracked ribs, ruptured livers,
>> etc.  Although they
>> sound
>> > plausible, none of the anecdotes I've seen so far are attributed to
>> any source.

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 14:02:36 GMT
From:    Lesley Hall <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Injuries from tight lacing?

> In the Mutter Museum in Philadelphia, there is a
skeleton described as being
> from a woman who wore a corset for a lifetime.  Her
rib cage is horribly
> disfigured

This rather recalls to me the various waxwork museums
showing the evil results of self-abuse ... i.e. it's
very likely a cautionary construct.


Lesley Hall
[log in to unmask]
www.lesleyahall.net

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 06:07:10 -0800
From:    Danny Sexton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: George Eliot and Church

If I remember correctly from the biographies that I
have read over the years, Robert Evans was a member of
the Church of England, an Anglican who was High Church
in his sympathies.

Danny Sexton
Ph.D. Candidate in English
Graduate Center/CUNY

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 08:32:32 -0600
From:    [log in to unmask]
Subject: George Eliot and Church

I've not had an opportunity to check any of this but, in the absence of
a reply from Kathleen McCormack or anyone else, I can say that Robert
Evans was a determined Establishment man.  I believe that at one time he
held a lay position of some sort in the parish church at Chilvers Coton
where Marian grew up.  He was proud of upholding the old values of the
local nobility (the Newdigates) who were his employers.  Although he had
nonconformist relatives and allowed Marian to go to nonconformist
schools, he was, as we know, very distressed, when she refused to
accompany him to Sunday services.  His religion was conventional rather
than spiritual and he viewed her not going to church as subversive
rather than impious.  I think some biographers have thought this episode
overplayed, but I think it was painfully important for both of them.

Michael Wolff
Professor Emeritus
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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 08:38:14 -0600
From:    "Hastings, Waller" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot and Church

My recollection (hazy, though, as it's been some time since I taught or
read Eliot) is that he was a Nonconformist, though what specific
denomination within that catchall group I don't know.

waller hastings
northern state university
aberdeen, sd 57401
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"I beseech you in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be
mistaken." - Oliver Cromwell, to his enemies

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Date:    Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:34:47 +0100
From:    Julia Bolton Holloway <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot and Church

George Eliot as a child ran away with my relative, a Coventry Quaker,
Sarah Maria Cash. They were wanting to get to London. That attraction to
dissenting sects is clear in Adam Bede, where George Eliot describes her
Methodist heroine as Quaker-like, and similarly so her Anglican heroine
in Middlemarch. Quakers since their foundation in the seventeenth
century had equality between the genders.

Julia Bolton Holloway
English Cemetery
Florence, Italy

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:26:16 -0000
From:    Lee Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A Metropolitan Murder (2)

After Chris's generously-worded email (thanks Chris - the cheque's in
the post!) I had better formally announce that  "A METROPOLITAN MURDER"
is indeed now available in the shops.

It's a thriller set in and around the Metropolitan Line in its infancy
in 1864 ... if you're interested, see my site
http://www.victorianlondon.org/metro.htm
I feel somewhat obliged to warn list-members that it is more a modern
"penny dreadful" than a three-volume-novel - but hopefully a good read
for both Victorian enthusiasts and the general public - fingers crossed!

regards,

Lee
www.victorianlondon.org

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:53:39 EST
From:    [log in to unmask]
Subject: "beating the devil's tattoo"

One of my students has asked about the phrase "beating the devil's
tattoo" from Chapter 48 of Vanity Fair, "Lord Steyne made no reply
except by beating the devil's tattoo, and biting his nails."  The note
reads, "Drumming his fingers on the table" but does not give the source
for the expression.  I did a Google search and found many different
Victorian usages but no explanations.

Abigail Burnham Bloom
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:01:20 -0600
From:    [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: George Eliot and Church

Julia Bolton Holloway wrote:

 > George Eliot as a child ran away with my relative, a Coventry Quaker,
Sarah Maria Cash...

I'd not heard this delightful story and it's not, I think, in any, even
the most recent, of the biographical accounts.  Marian Evans was indeed
very young when she first knew the Coventry Cashes (whose nametapes were
always sewed onto my clothes when I was a boy) and the young John Cash
was a very good friend of the Lewes in their later years.   Does Ms.
Holloway have any documentation of this anecdote?  If so, some archive
or collection (perhaps the George Eliot Fellowship of Coventry or Tokyo)
should be allowed a copy of the details.  But if it's a story passed
down orally all the more reason for it to be on the record somewhere.

"Adam Bede" is George Eliot's tribute to the straightforward piety of
Dissenters and especially Quakers.  By this time she was thoroughly
secular and a determinedly undogmatic positivist.  Ethics was more
important to her than creeds.  A good quick guide to her view of the
varieties of Anglican clergy at the time of her own childhood can be
found in her description of a Clerical Meeting in her first story, "The
Sad Fortunes of the Reverend Amos Barton" in "Scenes from Clerical Life"
published (1857/59) when she still wanted "George Eliot" to be thought a
respectable male writer and not an atheistical woman known to be living
with the then already married Lewes. (Perhaps her most sympathetic
clergyman is Dr. Kenn from the last chapters of "The Mill on the
Floss".)

Michael Wolff
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:27:48 -0000
From:    Michel Faber <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "beating the devil's tattoo"

Abigail Burnham Bloom wrote:

> One of my students has asked about the phrase "beating the devil's
> tattoo" from Chapter 48 of Vanity Fair, "Lord Steyne made no reply
> except by beating the devil's tattoo, and biting his nails."  The note
> reads, "Drumming his fingers on the table" but does not give the
> source for the expression.  I did a Google search and found many
> different Victorian usages but no explanations.

Perhaps the phrase is felt to be self-explanatory?  I assume it is an
elaboration of the proverb "The devil finds work for idle hands to do."
If idle hands drum on the table, then the noise they make is the devil's
tattoo. (This is a guess, however, and I stand to be corrected by a
devilish Victorianist.)

Best wishes,

Michel Faber
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:31:48 -0600
From:    William McKelvy <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot and Church

I'd second Michael Wolff's reply to this question that has appropriately
generated dissent: Robert Evans was NOT a Nonconformist. He was Church
of England. As others have variously pointed out, this churchmanship did
not prevent connections with nonconformists. The final double
fictional veil assumed by Mariann Evans, George Eliot writing as the
clergyman's son Theophrastus Such, gives a version of her father's views
on the establishment (as I take it).

Also would love to hear more about the story about the youthful dash to
London. First I've heard of it.

------------
Bill McKelvy / [log in to unmask]
------------

Department of English
Campus Box 1122
Washington University
St. Louis, MO 63130-4899

(314) 935-7131

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:26:09 -0600
From:    Patrick Leary <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "beating the devil's tattoo"

Eric Partridge's dictionaries of slang, though not infallible, are good
sources to check for such things.  His fifth edition (the one on my
bookshelf, 1961) has an entry for "the devil's tattoo" and defines it
as: "An impatient or vacant drumming on, e.g., the table, with one's
fingers, with one's feet on the floor," and notes that after ca. 1895 it
had passed into Standard English.  His sources for this are Scott,
Lytton, and Thackeray, which makes me wonder if Scott or Fielding or
somebody invented the phrase along the lines Michel has suggested (or as
a shortened form of "the devil's own tattoo," "devil's" being a common
intensifier), which then got picked up by later writers and so passed --
for a time, at least -- into the language.  The OED might give further
guidance, but in any case it does neatly illustrate Thackeray's subtle
feel for context, having just the air of racy aristocratic slang one
associates with Lord Steyne.  If the student who asked about this might
be interested in Thackeray's way with words in other contexts, K. C.
Phillipps's _The Language of Thackeray_ is illuminating.

-- Patrick

__________
Patrick Leary
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:43:18 -0000
From:    Malcolm Shifrin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "beating the devil's tattoo"

Adding a little weight to Michel's "guess", Brewer includes the phrase =
'a wearisome number of times' in its definition.
--
Malcolm Shifrin
Victorian Turkish Baths Project
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Visit our website at=20
http://www.victorianturkishbath.org/


Michel wrote:

I assume it is an
elaboration of the proverb "The devil finds work for idle hands to do."
= If idle
hands drum on the table, then the noise they make is the devil's tattoo.

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:54:30 +0100
From:    Julia Bolton Holloway <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot and Church

It's both oral and scribal, my father in his autobiography noting:

'Mrs. Cash was born a Southam, and the Southams, for a century or more,
remained loyal to the Catholic faith amid a thousand discouragements and
disabilities. Then Mass was heard no more in the secret chapel at
Southam Hall; and Dr Southam became a convert to Quakerism. The King's
physician and his daughter adopted the severest Quaker dress. Marriage
to Josiah Cash made the daughter a great figure in the Quaker community
of Coventry; but she never lost contact with the Catholics who had
struggled for
emancipation. She was quick to detect new talent. Nathaniel Hawthorne
was often her guest, and under her protection came Mary Evans, the
farmer's daughter. Mary Evans formed a particularly strong friendship
with Josiah Cash's niece, Mary Anne Cash. The two young ladies agreed
that the Cashes and their cousins the Sibrees were intolerably narrow.
They had to run away. So they chartered a cab and arrived at Leamington
Spa, which is nine miles from Coventry. A strange career had begun; for
Mary Evans was George Eliot'.

Sybil and Glorney Bolton, Two Lives Converge (London and Glasgow:
Blackie & Son, Ltd., 1938), p. 14.

I used to have two thin silver teaspoons monogrammed with SMC
intertwined, for Sarah Maria Cash, and was told this was the relative
who ran away with Mary Anne Evans. Her nickname in the family was Great
Aunt 'Zambuk'. But re-reading my father's account of his great
grand-parents I think now it was this other Mary Anne Cash. I also had a
photograph of the portrait of Dr John Southam, and remember in my
childhood the paintings on the walls of our Quaker relatives in their
grey and white, painted by my Anglo-Irish artist grandfather, the Cashes
paying for the portraits to help the impoverished family who had four
children but not taking them home.

Julia Bolton Holloway
'English Cemetery'
Florence, Italy

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:09:56 -0800
From:    Genie Babb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: C3 Children

Reading Vera Brittain's *Testament of Youth*, my
students and I came across a reference to "C3
children." I googled the phrase and found nothing very
illumintating.

I realize Brittain's book is outside the purview of
the listserv, but she discusses the Vctn legacy so
extensively that I thought this might be a designation
originating in the C19. If I'm mistaken, please
forgive!

Any help will be much appreciated, off or on list as
seems appropriate.

All best,

Genie Babb

=====
Genie Babb
Associate Professor of English
Co-Director of Women's Studies
University of Alaska Anchorage
907.786.4380 (phone)
907.786.4383 (FAX)
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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 15:29:16 -0600
From:    [log in to unmask]
Subject: news of eclipses

This may come a tad late for the person inquiring last month, but I've
just read a 1-inch notice in a small-town southern-Illinois newspaper,
1838, that a solar eclipse would occur 6 weeks hence; and that the next
such events in the US would occur 16 and 26 years hence. This town was
no beacon of learning or science, I am certain.
 Might one take this to mean that anyone who looked at any newspapers at
all in England would have been aware in advance of an eclipse? James
Cornelius, U. of Illinois, [log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:26:59 -0000
From:    Luke McKernan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Queen Victoria on film

Following my recent announcement about the Who's Who of Victorian Cinema
= site, I had a request from a subscriber for information on films of =
Queen Victoria. unfortunately the emails keep bouncing back from the =
address that I have, so I'm sending my reply to the whole list in the =
hope that she may see it there - and maybe others will be interested in
= the reply in any case.


Luke McKernan

MESSAGE FOLLOWS

Dear Melanie,

There is no commercial video available of all the films of Queen =
Victoria (of which there are perhaps a dozen), and the only video in the
= country that I know of with any films of her is the British Film =
Institute's Film as Evidence (some details here: =
http://www.bfi.org.uk/education/resources/teaching/secondary/evidence/)
= which has one film at least of the Diamond Jubilee procession, and I =
think the film taken of her at Balmoral in October 1896. The BFI has =
most if not all of the extant films of Queen Victoria, and it would be =
possible for them to make a tape of these for you, though the costs =
would be signficantly higher than a shop video, inevitably. I would =
recommend dropping a line to Simon Brown in their Archive Footage Sales
= department - Simon is an authority on early film himself. His email =
address is
[log in to unmask]

The BFI has numerous newsfilms taken of of the Diamond Jubilee, of which
= three or four feature the Queen herself. It also has the film of her
at = Balmoral in October 1896, her visit to Sheffield in 1897, the
garden = party that took place a few days after the Diamond Jubilee (the
only = film in which she is seen to move), a long shot of her reviewing
troops = going off to the Boer War, and film of her visit to Dublin in
1900. Plus = many films of her funeral. All of these films are one
minute long or = less, the standard length of films for the period.

I hope this helps - let me know if I can advise more (I once gave a talk
= on the Diamond Jubilee showing the audience the route with eye-witness
= readings and all of the extant film clips of the procession shown in =
chronological order - it was a wonderful show, though I say it myself!).


Luke




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Who's Who of Victorian Cinema
http://www.victorian-cinema.net

Charles Urban, Motion Picture Pioneer
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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 14:23:16 -0500
From:    Heather Schell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "beating the devil's tattoo"

Does this have anything to do with negative associations between
drumming, savagery, and non-European rhythmic music?  *Were* there
negative connotations to drumming?  I have in mind a typecast
colonial listening to distant drumming and announcing, "The natives are
restless tonight."


--

Heather Schell
Assistant Professor of Writing
George Washington University
Washington, DC  20052
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:25:40 -0500
From:    "Nesta, Frederic" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Injuries from tight lacing?

 George Smith, Charlotte Bront=EB's publisher, wrote in his unpublished
memoirs that  'It shocks the natural respect for a fine genius to say =
it;
but I have little doubt that tight-lacing shortened Charlotte =
Bront=EB's life'
He may have repeated this to another of his later authors, George =
Gissing.
Of Smith's memory of Bront=EB  Gissing wrote in his Commonplace Book:  =
'In no
modern writer have I such intense personal interest as in Charlotte =
Bront=EB.
It has stirred me strangely to hear George Smith speak of his =
remembrance of
her.  He hints that he & his mother were the originals of John and Mrs.
Bretton in "Villette."  But I wish he spoke more reverently'.


Frederick N. Nesta
Director, Saint Peter's College Libraries
2741 Kennedy Blvd.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
+1 201 915-9387 / Fax: 201 432-4117
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Date:    Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:38:56 +0800
From:    =?iso-8859-1?q?Tamara=20Wagner?=
<[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "beating the devil's
tattoo"

 --- Patrick Leary <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The
OED might give further
> guidance.

The OED online has the following entry:

b. devil's tattoo: the action of idly tapping or
drumming with the fingers, etc. upon a table or other
object, in an irritating manner, or as a sign of
vexation, impatience, or the like.

  1803 M. EDGEWORTH Belinda xvii, Mrs. Freke beat the
devil's-tattoo for some moments. 1826 DISRAELI Viv.
Grey II. ii, The Peer sat in a musing mood, playing
the Devil's tattoo on the library table. 1855 H.
SPENCER Princ. Psychol. (1872) II. VIII. iv. 544
Beating the ‘devil's tattoo’ with the fingers on the
table, is a recognized mark of impatience.

Thackeray isn't mentioned. Instead Maria Edgeworth is
cited as the first to come up with/ use the phrase.
This doesn't say anything about its origins, of
course, about which the OED remains curiously silent.
Edgeworth's Anglo-Irish background, however, might be
a link to follow up, or more importantly, the interest
in "regional" fiction at the time (Walter Scott wrote
later that he was indebted to her Irish novels), so
perhaps that's where the tattoo comes in. Some
listmembers have mentioned restless savages; Highland
dances would have been considered in a similar context
at the time Edgeworth wrote. Edgeworth's Mrs Freke,
however, has no connection to either Scotland or
Ireland (as far as I remember, at least - it's been a
long time since I read the novel). Instead, beating
the devil's tattoo seems to have been an occupation of
the idle upper-classes (as likewise in Disraeli's and
Thackeray's novels).

Tamara
(on a different subject: thanks for the postings on "A
Metropolitan Murder" - I've already written to a
friend of mine to bring the book along from the UK
when she comes to see me in two weeks time. Can't wait
to read it.)

=====



Tamara S. Wagner

http://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/staff/home/ELLTSW/


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Date:    Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:47:42 +0800
From:    =?iso-8859-1?q?Tamara=20Wagner?=
<[log in to unmask]> Subject: thanks for adulterated food

Many thanks to

James Eli Adams, Winnie Chan, Casey Cothran, Eileen M.
Curran, Maire Ni Fhlathuin, Michael Flowers, M.E.
Foley, Elizabeth Garver, Valerie Gorman, Lesley Hall,
Suzanne Keen, Patrick Leary, Margee, Tara McGann,
Jessica Posgate, Meri-Jane Rochelson, Stuart Semmel,
Erin Shelor, Rebecca Stern, Beth Sutton-Ramspeck, and
Michael Wolff

for their supply of adulterated food references, both
on and off list.

This is certainly a much richer topic than I had
originally sought.

Having got rid of a book-manuscript (on colonial and
postcolonial fictions of the Occident and the Orient,
with the former British Straits Settlements as the
focus-point - and how I'm looking forward to getting
back to the Victorian metropolis now!), my mind feels
wonderfully clear again. I wish to apologise once more
for the muddle the other day. Fortunately the
list-server had blocked the entire message when it saw
the pdf file attached to it. I must have had a bit too
much on my plate that day.

Thanks also for the posting on the online version of
the _Lancet_. Alas, my library only subscribes to the
early-twenty-first-century issues, but the search
function has proved extremely useful (28 entries on
"food adulteration" alone, and I'll see how it goes
from there), and I'm planning an expedition to the
Medical Library, which seems to hold all original
copies.

In fact, I'm particularly interested in references to
the monetary side of the food adulteration business
(and business scruples) and indeed in any other shady
businesses, but this (I think) should provide a good
angle on my money-topic.

With many thanks again for all the reading tips,
Tamara

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