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Re: School Parking

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Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:16:07 -0000

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Hi John
It seems that if the school had to provide parking space for the normal
school run it is again different from arrangements they could provide
occasionally for a PTA meeting for that particular parent. The parent (not
the child) would need to get into the school and they should let her access
the car park.
I know this seems a round about way of solving the problem but 2 things are
really important here: the age of the child, and where is the nearest place
the parent can park safely for a drop off and collect point. 
If the child is too young (debatable depending area, or if there are roads
to cross) a staff helper can take the child to the car at the end of the
day. In the morning, arrangements could be made with walking-in parents. The
school should arrange this. Otherwise, if the child is old enough, 8 years
is when children have full peripheral vision and start to be able to see
better the cars coming, they could walk the rest of the way to the school.
With mobile phones, they could be alerted if the parent was delayed for the
return journey.
Alternatively that parent could be environment friendly and arrange car
sharing with someone else. She would pick up and return children and solve
her problem too. 
I think the school would make more "reasonable arrangements" by facilitating
the school run arrangements or providing a staff member or  to ensure that
child safety on a regular basis, and special access when the parent needs to
get into the school herself. 

Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
John Gregory
Sent: 26 November 2004 14:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] School Parking

Hi Marcus,

Yes, technically, but as I don't consider the car park as 'a service' then
DDA Part III would not apply.  Part IV does not have anything in it to refer
to, hence SENDA.

Cheers.

John.

John Gregory
Access Officer
Cherwell District Council
Tel. 01295 221630
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Marcus Ormerod [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   26 November 2004 14:42
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] School Parking

                Hi John and John

                Since SENDA is now DDA part 4 it does not matter.

                Marcus

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                From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of
                John Gregory
                Sent: 26 November 2004 14:12
                To: [log in to unmask]
                Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] School Parking


                Hi John,

                If I read your description correctly, the school are saying
that the car
                park is private and not a public facility.  If so, I think
that this would
                exclude them from doing anything to assist the parent.  They
would not be
                covered under DDA as it is not a service.

                If anything, and I doubt whether it is possible, SENDA is
the appropriate
                legislation.  However, not being an educational authority, I
am not too
                familiar with SENDA and all its nuances.  I will consult one
of my
                colleagues who may know more.

                Regards.

                John.

                John Gregory
                Access Officer
                Cherwell District Council
                Tel. 01295 221630
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                                -----Original Message-----
                                From:   John Rainey
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                                Sent:   26 November 2004 12:46
                                To:     [log in to unmask]
                                Subject:        [ACCESSIBUILT] School
Parking

                                Hi All,

                                I am hoping one of you out there may have
had the same
                problem as me and was 
                                able to successfully solve the problem.

                                A school in my area, like so many others
throughout the
                country, does not 
                                have a drop-off point or, a car park, to
assist parents when
                either bringing 
                                children to school or, picking them up
again. The school has
                a procedure 
                                whereby they lock the vehicular access
between 8.30am and
                3.45pm to prevent 
                                parents driving up to the school. There is
no room for
                vehicles to turn in 
                                the staff carpark once the staff have taken
up all the
                parking bays.

                                One of the parents has a heart condition
that prevents her
                from walking more 
                                than 10 meters without taking a substantial
recovery break.
                This parent has 
                                asked the school to allow her access to the
staff carpark in
                order to drop 
                                off and pick up her child.

                                The school has now asked me to determine if
are they
                required, under the 
                                DDA, to provide a member of staff to unlock
the gate each
                time this parent 
                                arrives as well as providing an accessible
parking bay. They
                tell me the 
                                price £15,000 for a full security CCTV and
powered gate,
                costs too much for 
                                this to be an option. I believe that doing
nothing is not an
                option and I 
                                believe there must be a lower level security
system out
                there that will 
                                allow vehicular identification so that the
gate can be
                opened remotely from 
                                a school office.

                                If you can offer some advice I would be
grateful,

                                John

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