Peter, I think the big issue is motorcycles and the very big danger speeding bikes cause on narrow paths. Sheep don't try to dismantle gates - yet! Sheffield City urban area and fringe and the neighbouring Peak District National Park suffer greatly.
Happy days
Anthony Rylands
Sheffield City Council Access Officer for Disabled People
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From: Peter Monk [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 15 October 2004 17:01
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] "K" Barriers
Another solution is the research that the BSI did into gates and styles. The recommendation in BS 5709:2001 is use a light action gate with a 2-way light action spring and latch that everyone can get through, but that self-closes to keep sheep out There is a good one across an access path at Haweswater in the Lakes.
For light action latches invented by a disabled guy who runs a riding stable in Oxfordshire see www.kitchcatch.com
Peter Monk
Access Officer
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Rylands Anthony
Sent: 12 October 2004 10:07
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] "K" Barriers
John,
They have been tested by the local Access Group in Sheffield at a meeting attended by the designer who lives locally.
Whilst the A barrier is used extensively in Sheffield it has its problems for some disabled people and the aim of the K barrier was in part to try to improve the accessibility.
The Group felt overall there were positive benefits of the new style in particular for visually impaired people. The A frame is not so good for them. However the K barrier poses some difficulty for manual wheelchair users. Also there was a question, not previously posed for the A frame, as to whether guide dogs would walk through the more enclosed space of the K barrier. This is to be checked.
The K barrier can be set at different widths so to a degree the problems can be overcome but its balanced against the likelihood of more motorcycles getting through. It has been agreed that the K barriers will be used, set at a width of 580 mm. A width of 550 mm was tested and found to have a significant detrimental impact on the accessibility of the barrier for wheelchair users.
The K barrier is easier to install for a number of reasons. Its construction is simpler but also in Sheffield the Council has insisted on using tactile guidance paving to help guide visually impaired people through it, following the Group's earlier comments.
The Sheffield Access Group meet on 13th October to confirm their final view on the K barriers so I will update you if there are any additional comments.
The barriers in both forms affect a range of people from buggy users to cyclists and disabled people. There are also a range of issues affecting their construction and attacks by vandals - using Stihl saws - and off-road vehicles who try to rip them out. The Council has a lot of experience of the barriers in both forms so if anyone is interested please contact me.
Anthony Rylands
Sheffield City Council Access Officer for Disabled People
Tel: 0114 273 4197
Fax: 0114 273 5002
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Web: http://www.sheffield.gov.uk
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From: John Rainey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 11 October 2004 16:16
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Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] "K" Barriers
"K" Barriers - a further development of the "A" frame barrier. Does anyone
know how effective they are at keeping out motorcycles and how accessible
they are for wheelchaire users, double buggies etc.? I have also seen a
kissing gate with a RADAR lock. Both are a similar price but the first does
not require the user to be a RADAR key holder whereas the second does. I
know the kissing gate will allow a vehicle through in the unlocked and
extended position but I know little about the "K" gate.
John Rainey
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