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> From: Elgar, Llio
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 03:26
> To: Gwynne, Mary
> Subject: RE: blue light toilets.
>
> This proposal causes me concern and raises many issues, three of which
> are outlined below. Having been in toilets lit by blue light at a London
> University I can testify that in general it creates an unpleasant,
> stressed atmosphere in which one doesn't hang around
>
> 1. The deterrent
> If the main aim of the light is to deter people from injecting one has to
> consider that toilets could still be used to prepare a substance but
> you'd have to go outside to inject, i.e. in corridor or off the street.
> Blue light would not deter people from dealing or preparing illegal
> substances nor from leaving needles in toilets. If this is a problem why
> not put a safe needle deposit bin in the toilets in question or provide a
> safe area in which to inject
>
> 2. The case against discrimination
> Many people need to inject substances for medical purposes. To stop them
> from doing it causes a health risk and discriminates against these
> individuals. Are we prepared to provide another space for insulin
> dependent people ? Furthermore some people need to take a longer time to
> use the toilet than others - people who use a catheter, people with young
> children, wheelchair users etc. Blue light would put them under undue
> stress and this could be discriminatory.
>
> 3. Social aspect
> Why take an action which adversely affects everybody in order to target a
> specific social problem. It treats the general public as if we were likely
> offenders. Toilets have a social function in that it allows you to tidy
> your appearance, look through your bags, etc. which you can't do on the
> street. Stopping this function would anger and annoy people.
>
> In conclusion the proposed action is disproportionate to the problem, may
> be discriminatory and treats people as if they need to be controlled. This
> doesn't make for a happy public.
>
> Llio Elgar
>
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> From: Gwynne, Mary
> Sent: 25 March 2004 14:12
> To: Llio Elgar; Andy Edwards
> Subject: FW: blue light toilets.
>
> any comments?
> Regards
> Mary Gwynne
> Policy Development Officer(Access)
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> From: Gwynne, Mary
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 01:53
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> 'josie miah'; 'Kevin Fitzpatrick'; 'Lee Ellery'; 'mair norris-ellery';
> 'mencap Sx'; 'Nicholls, Jill'; 'sian baldwin'; 'Welsh Centre for
> Accessibility'; James, Betsi; Access to Learning - Learning Team; Irwin,
> Jenny; Rainbow, John; Sainty, June; Mabbs, Pauline; Millson, Vicky; 'BDA
> Richard Jones'; 'Colin Roberts RNID'; Diehl, Ruth; Jones, Sharon
> (Education); Carter-Ingram, Yvonne; [log in to unmask];
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> Talbot Access'; 'Pembs Access G'; 'Sadegh Khaghanian'; 'Andi Lyden';
> 'Charles Peck'; 'Heather'; 'Kirby, M'; 'Mandie Hoskins'; 'Onions R';
> Davies, Sharon; Lucas, Andrew; Thomas, Gerwyn
> Cc: Beynon, Julian
> Subject: blue light toilets.
>
> Dear All,
> What is your opinion on blue light toilets?
> In Bournemouth the Council has installed blue lights in their
> toilets. The effect of this is that it had the impact of reducing the
> number of discarded used needles in public toilets. Apparently for users
> their veins are almost impossible to see under blue light thereby making
> injection very difficult if not impossible. Results in Bournemouth were
> 75% reduction in discarded needles
>
> What do you think of the idea?
> Our officers would like to know what disabled people think of the
> idea.
> Please send your comments to me or [log in to unmask]
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>
> Regards
> Mary Gwynne
> Policy Development Officer(Access)
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