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Re: LISTOWNER MESSAGE Re: Grandparenting non state registered chiropodists and podiatrists.

From:

Alec Mason <[log in to unmask]>

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A group for the academic discussion of current issues in podiatry <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:52:51 +0000

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With the risk of sounding repetitive, I couldn't agree more with your view
Simon.

I joined this list on the recommendation of a colleague and regularly enjoy
topics ranging from regulation of the profession to where in Ireland serves
the best pint of the black stuff!

I really hope people continue to contribute these wide ranging topics.

Regards,

Alec Mason
Podiatrist
Bournemouth UK


>From: John Mason <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: A group for the academic discussion of current issues in podiatry
>              <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: LISTOWNER MESSAGE Re: Grandparenting non state registered
>chiropodists and podiatrists.
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:57:17 +0100
>
>Couldn`t agree with you more Simon, a very mature and balanced view.
>
>This forum is available to all, whatever organisation they are in or not in
>and is therefore all embracing.
>
>Of course some postings will infuriate us but if we hope to advance it is
>possible that we can occasionally learn from them. The odd jovial posting
>is surely no great hardship either.
>
>As Simon says 'there is a delete key', better still, you can set your mail
>program to send specific addresses straight to the deleted file, therefore
>avoiding having to read that which you consider repetitive verbal
>diarrhoea.
>
>I hope that Ralph will reconsider his position and not pull up the
>drawbridge and seek the protection of his castle, his contributions are
>valuable and informative.
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>John Mason
>
>
>
>
>
>  [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:10 AM
>   Subject: LISTOWNER MESSAGE Re: Grandparenting non state registered
>chiropodists and podiatrists.
>
>
>   All,
>
>   We have, as Mark has pointed out, been around this particular stump many
>times.  Let us re-examine the purpose of the list: the list is "a group for
>the academic discussion of current issues in podiatry". So what does this
>mean? The big issue here is what constitutes "academic"? Let us take a
>dictionary definition: academic / adj. & n.- adj. 1a scholarly to do with
>learning. b of or relating to a scholarly institution (academic dress) 2
>abstract; theoretical; not of practical relevance. 3 Art conventional,
>over-formal. 4a  of or concerning Plato's philosophy. b sceptical. -n. a
>teacher or scholar in a university or institute of higher education.
>(Oxford English Dictionary)
>
>   Now here's my problem- which topics meet the "academic definition" and
>which do not? If we take the noun- then only those in the employee of a
>University or College of HE should be able to post to the list. Is this
>what you want? The adjective definitions are broad and somewhat sweeping.
>To be honest I for one have learned from these political discussions-
>therefore are they "to do with learning"? Last week a number of posting
>related to the passing of a fellow podiatrist- was this academic
>discussion? Should I have moderated these postings? Or, should I moderate
>only when someone complains? This would mean that if someone disagreed with
>a theory put forward they could complain and the discussion thread would
>stop. In the past I have been chastised for stepping in and trying to
>moderate what I believed were "non-academic" discussion's on this forum. I
>hope you can see the difficult position this puts me in.
>
>   Kevin made the point that he believed that this list was no longer
>moderated. This leads me to an announcement I should have made some time
>ago. The list is now jointly owned and moderated by myself, and Mrs Joanne
>Paton (University of Plymouth UK). The reason for this is that I am no
>longer in the employee of a University and as such do not have an ac.uk
>e-mail address. This is a similar situation as when Tony Redmond and Penny
>Renwick were the listowners- Tony did not hold an ac.uk address but Penny
>did. Thus, the list is very much still moderated and the work still goes on
>behind the scenes much as it did before.
>
>   So how should I respond to this? Some members don't like the current
>topic, while other clearly do. Topics are kept alive by members posting to
>the mailbase. When members stop discussing the topic the thread ends (for
>the time being). It seems to me the answer is simple- hit the delete key
>and don't respond if you are not interested. BTW this is the argument put
>forward by those who have chastised me in the past- is this an example of
>my learning from the list?
>
>   Best wishes,
>   Simon Spooner
>   LISTOWNER
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Kevin Kirby
>     To: [log in to unmask]
>     Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:46 AM
>     Subject: Re: Grandparenting non state registered chiropodists and
>podiatrists.
>
>
>     Jim and Colleagues:
>
>     Jim wrote:
>
>     <<These are the sorts of issues that periodically have me tearing my
>hair out about this list and one of the reasons I seldom contribute these
>days. I spend all my time instantly deleting messages then realise I'd be
>quicker just to unsubscribe. I admire Ralph for taking the time to answer
>the one or two people who have hijacked this list for purposes outwith its
>intended use. Does the SCP not have a website forum for this type of
>discussion and is this list no longer moderated?>>
>
>     I'm with you on this one, Jim.  BTW, my understanding is that the list
>is not moderated currently.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Kevin
>
>
>****************************************************************************
>     Kevin A. Kirby, DPM
>     Adjunct Associate Professor
>     Department of Applied Biomechanics
>     California School of Podiatric Medicine at Samuel Merritt College
>
>     Private Practice:
>     107 Scripps Drive, Suite 200
>     Sacramento, CA  95825  USA
>
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