Geraldine, Pierre
you're both right o be thankful for the moments of light that slant
between floorboards. Like the apocryphal fish that got away I lamented
what was missing due to the timeframe's exigency. McQueen was a tad
fixated onto the early twentieth century, wanted to talk about Dadaism
et al and left out the lettristes, ultralettristes (we got into
Chopin's buccal instances, prototypical sampling of the body and
connections to Stelarc's stomach sculptures, and Dufrene's
'Cri-Rhythm') and then Cobbing and the decorum of ink. he pulled back
from my attacks on the politics of linguistic transparency vide the War
on Iraq (he's got problems enough of his own being current war artist
at the Imperial War Museum and producing work to that brief in the
current climate is to say the least fraught). Samarin had some terrific
first hand witness of glossolalia too. There was genuine excitement
around the radiophonic potential of multi-voice compositions by poets
but falling beyond the programme's remit and of course fifty years
behind what German radio managed to accomplish through Horspiel
commissioning. Still, it might have opened a door somewhere. I'm trying
to find a passage to the living room.
love and love
cris
On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 01:45 AM, Pierre Joris wrote:
> I enjoyed the show -- thought the different voices & stories made for a
> nice poluphony -- would of course have preferred some more & better
> recorded cris -- & would have preferred 3 hours rathewr than 28 or so
> minutes, but we's happy for any small gift from the mighty beeb --
> there's a nice piece of software on my mac, "audio hijack pro", which
> allows me to record any streaming sound source -- so have the whole
> thing in my computer for relistening on some future long winter night
> -- Pierre
>
> On Mar 21, 2004, at 8:19 PM, Geraldine Monk wrote:
>
>> Will try access website cris (and recommend it to anyone who didn't
>> catch
>> it - and I'm sure cris would appreciate more feedback) but yes I see
>> your
>> disappointment - Whitelaw was sitting next to you indecently intimate
>> in
>> your ear whereas you where across the room propping up the sink at a
>> party
>> expounding to all and sundry. But these things are personal
>> disappointment
>> because you are super-aware when hearing yourself. The non- invested
>> listener is just listening to what's being said and not caring about
>> technical excellence. It worked and that's all that matters.
>>
>> Another element I really liked was how the anecdotal personal
>> dimension was
>> shown to be informative and integral to sound sensitivity and
>> sensibility.
>> Whitelaw's extraordinary story of the dying son she saved and your
>> even
>> more extraordinary story of a dad that read to you at bedtime! - and
>> read
>> the Jabberwocky!!! (ggrrrrr - I went a bit green with envy at that
>> one).
>> G.
>> p.s In my experience dat's are crap. Anyone know a good dat system
>> that
>> doesn't pack up on you at the vital moment? Or is it just the
>> controllers
>> who are crap?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "cris cheek" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: radio BBC 3 tomorrow - saturday
>>
>>
>>> well thanks Geraldine. I did listen to it - somewhat cringing. I
>>> liked the programme too overall and the sharp cutting which left one
>>> contribution and perspective hanging resonant besides each other but
>>> was distressed by my own, mostly for the poorer sound recording
>>> quality. Out of my control that, ths story is one of bodged dat tapes
>>> in Bush house and some dodgy salvage by a London dat doctor but
>>> Whitelaw rightly took center stage. You could hear the spittle in her
>>> articulation. I saw Not I again at Partly Writing ini Southampton
>>> recently and was literally 'gob-smacked'.
>>>
>>> anyway, for those who might retain curiosity it'll be on the BBC 3
>>> radio website for the forthcoming week.
>>>
>>> love and love
>>> cris
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2004, at 01:17 AM, Geraldine Monk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unavoidably missed the beginning but got enough to be impressed by
>>>> the
>>>> format - very well put together - cleanly and intelligently spliced
>>>> and an
>>>> interesting mix of perspectives. I have to say cris I thought your
>>>> brief
>>>> burst into 'ursonate' was better than the original despite your
>>>> deference.
>>>> Well done superstar!
>>>> G.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "cris cheek" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:49 PM
>>>> Subject: radio BBC 3 tomorrow - saturday
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 22.30
>>>>> Between the Ears
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>
>>>>> Turner prize winning artist Steve McQueen explores the boundaries
>>>>> of
>>>>> vocal expression with actor Billie Whitelaw, sound poet cris cheek
>>>>> and
>>>>> linguistics professor William Samarin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've not heard the edit but am assured it is austere and affecting.
>>>>> ______
>>>>>
>>>>> follows on from The Verb, with which it *might make an intriguing
>>>>> comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>> love and love
>>>>> cris
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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