Of course it is but the point is that users of HBSMR are not restricted to
England but include HERs/SMRs throughout the British Isles and potentially
internationally.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siddall, Jason" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Various issues - 1 of 3 - attendance at meetings
> the way I understood it was that HBSMR group was for exegesis users only
> ...
>
> HER Forum was the national one
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Shaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:14 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Various issues - 1 of 3 - attendance at meetings
>
>
> Can we have some clarification first on the purpose and area served by
> the
> various groups. My understanding was that whereas HBSMR User Group
> serves a
> British-wide or even International audience and hence could have
> meetings
> anywhere (I believe the Bahamas was mentioned at the last meeting and
> have
> already started saving my air miles), the HER Forum meetings are
> organised
> by English Heritage primarily for the English SMRs. I seem to remember
> that
> when a meeting was held in Edinburgh this was heralded as a fraternal
> visit.
> If I am right HER Forum meetings should normally be held in England. If
> I
> am wrong presumably Historic Scotland/CADW etc should join with EH in
> bearing some of the costs.
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Val Turner" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Various issues - 1 of 3 - attendance at meetings
>
>
> > Dear All
> > Yes I'm serious, (ARIA did make it here once and intereg programmes
> have
> > too). I got lots of enthusiasm both on and off list. Perhaps folk
> ought
> to
> > find out from their authorities whether its viable - travel costs are
> high,
> > but have it on a Thurs and instead of travelling back Fri, we could
> arrange
> > to take you out and about then and over the w/e. O/n s - presumably
> we
> all
> > get the same allowance being LAs or quango LAs. If you want to come
> then
> > do, but make it May - July for your own benefits (better weather makes
> it
> > more interesting). We have a lovely conference room too!
> > Val
> >
> > Val Turner
> > Regional Archaeologist, Shetland
> >
> > Shetland Amenity Trust
> > Garthspool
> > Lerwick
> > Shetland ZE1 ONY
> > 01595 694688
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Issues related to Sites & Monuments Records
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: 11 December 2003 14:22
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Various issues - 1 of 3 - attendance at meetings
> >
> > Dear All
> > I've been reading this discussion with interest and a little bit of
> > frustration. As some of the points made relate to things that were
> set up
> > when I chaired the HBSMR Users Group, it might be worth giving a few
> > thoughts and, where appropriate, reminding everyone of why we did what
> we
> > did. I've split it into three, as it's otherwise a long blether.
> >
> > Attendance at meetings
> > Although the hope is for a large and representative number at every
> meeting,
> > it's not always going to happen, for various reasons, many of which
> have
> > been aired. Difficultly for travel is not an absolute and isn't
> determined
> > by distance alone - personal factors, reliability and timetabling of
> > transport all come into the equation. While I would hope that budgets
> > stretch to travel, not all will be able to support regular overnight
> > accommodation coasts . Just a fact of life for many, I suspect.
> There is
> > clearly a difficulty in not everyone being able to get easily to
> meetings
> > from all locations. That is at least one benefit in moving around,
> ensuring
> > that everyone gets a chance to attend a meeting near them. It spreads
> the
> > load and allows us all to get out and about. Travel is much more
> difficult
> > for those covering large rural areas, such as Scottish-based
> colleagues.
> > This is true even within their own areas (for example, when I was with
> > Highland Council, I did occasion!
> > ally have overnight stays just to do site visits!). So let's exercise
> some
> > tolerance for everyone else's difficulties, eh?
> >
> > I don't want to stick to just one meeting place, and I don't want to
> visit
> > London any more than I can help. So: let's start spreading it around
> > further. It has always been difficult to get people to host meetings,
> be
> > they HBSMR or National, but it's worth the effort. Sarah's right too:
> a
> > meeting doesn't take much organising. Were you serious, Val? Were
> you
> > serious, those who thought Shetland was a good idea? As an
> alternative,
> if
> > everybody is ready for a 6 hour ferry trip from Oban or a plane ride
> landing
> > on Traigh Mhor, Barra's cockle beach airport, we could ask Historic
> Scotland
> > to let us have use of Kismul Castle, the ancestral home of the
> MacNeils.
> I
> > could have a word with the family...? Exotic or what?
> > Jim
> >
> > +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+
> > Jim McNeil, South Yorkshire Archaeology Service
> > Planning, Transport and Highways
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