on 11/5/03 3:13 PM, Baruch Kimmerling at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> The questions are addressed also to you:
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> From: "Baruch Kimmerling" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "Paul Reynolds" <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: "ESA" <[log in to unmask]>; "alef"
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> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [alef] Re: Another assult against the Israeli Academic Freedom
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>> Dear Paul and David:
>> I'll be very brief. Thank you for teaaching me Introduction to Sociology
>> and politics. I'll also thank you for patronizing us, your former Empire's
>> natives, and to preaching how to deal with my goverment's criminal
>> activities.
>> a. Of course politics enter in every sphere of our life, including the
>> academy and the "ivory tower model" is just like any other "pure"
>> Weberian type. My argument was that the PRINCIPLES of academy is different
>> than those of politics (just as the orgizing principle of the family is
>> different for example). It should be very important to preserve ours
>> relative autonomy, even more because the uzurpatory tendencies of the
>> political institution.
>>
>> b. You ask our academic institutions and faculty to lunch en bloc
>> declarations against the Israeli policy. I myself would be very happy if
>> this should be done but it is not the way academic institution working.
>> Can you magine a serious British institution reaching a consensus about
>> any extra-academic issue and make it public? I would like to stress that
>> it is also against one of our basic principle - heterogenity.
NO BUT THE BOYCOTT CALL NEVER ASKED FOR ANYTHING 'EN BLOC'. THAT ISNT HOW I
SEE PROTEST AND ENGAGEMENT BY CIVIL SOCIETY AS WORKING
>>
>> c. No. There is no any principal difference between Campus Watch activity
>> and your activity. Both are directed collectivelly or individualy against
>> the academic freedom. The Israeli state is not damaged by your activities,
>> it just narrowed the margines of relative independence of the Israeli
>> academic institutions vis-a-vis the state.
DISAGREE -BOTH THE SUPPORT FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR THE BOYCOTT AND ALSO
THE OUTRAGE OF SRAELIS AND THEIR ZIONIST SUPPORTERS AGAINST THE BOYCOTT
SUGGEST IT WAS AND IS USEFUL. ACADEMIC FREEDOM IS PRECIOUS BUT IT DOES
NOT ALWAYS UNDER ALLCIRCUMSTANCE COME IN AS MORE IM PORTANT THAN ALL OTHER
CLAIMS NOT LEAST THOSE OF ELEMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS. THAT IS AN ETHICAL MATTER
FOR THE CONSCIENCE OF EACH NOT FOR UNIVERSALISTIC CLAIMS
>>
>> d. Finally - no parody: I'll be very glad to hear what individual and
>> groups of British and American faculties are doing to express their views
>> against (or for?) the invasion of Iraq. Any of your publshed recentely a
>> whole polemnic book about Tony Blair as I did about Ariel Sharon?
NO AND THAT WAS A N EXCELLENT PRODUCT AND YOU ARE RIGHT TO BE PROUD OF IT
BUT YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS ABOUT HETEROGEITY - WHICH I SHARE - SHOULD HELP YOU
UBNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT ALL GOPING TO DO THE SAME THING. THERE IS MORE
THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT.
LASTLY WE NEED TO CREATE MORE SPACE TO HELP EXTENDTHE POSSIBILITY OF A
POST ZIONIST POLITICS.
YOURS HILARY
>> Best, BK.
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