Phil Barker wrote:
> Andy Heath wrote:
>
>> I haven't followed this conversation so I don't
>> know if someone else has raised the issue but there
>> are reasons that secondary metadata is needed for accessibility
>> purposes. For example it is often the case that different
>> kinds of transcripts of resources are produced *after* the
>> orginal resource, separately and by separate organisations.
>
>
> Hello Andy,
> would I be right in thinking that you are refering to this metadata as
> secondary because it is created by someone other than the creator of the
> primary resource (or their agent)? In other words, the primary metadata
> is that which comes with the resource, the secondary metadata is that
> which produced later.
We don't have a name for it yet but all the purposes you state
are relevant ... created after the fact, by someone else,
about the orginal, and about a secondary resource.
>
> If I'm right in thinking this (and one of the points of this discussion
> has been that we should avoid the phrase "secondary metadata" since it
> means different things to different people, for example it is used in a
> differnt way in the message you're replying to), is the distinction
> outlined above worth making? Isn't it all just metadata?
>
> If I'm wrong, are you using the phrase secondary metadata because you're
> talking about metadata about a secondary resource?
>
>> A transcript for a particular accessibilty need may be
>> produced by a person or an organisation with special
>> knowledge of that need and possibly with a real
>> situation to deal with (a learner rather than a course).
>>
>> There is a need for Meta-data describing at least
>> the locations of transcripts and other kinds of
>> equivalent/alternative media for a resource. This
>> is subtly different from dynamic Meta-data with
>> only local use.
>>
>> The mechanism for association of resource and transcript
>> is not completely clear yet. In IMS and CEN-ISSS WS-LT
>> we are looking at using the relation element of the
>> LOM and similar in DC.
>
>
> Would you be using the isFormatOf type for the relationship?
This seems to be the most appropriate place yes..
>
> This doesn't solve all the
>
>> problems, such as how the original gets updated
>> when a transcript is created but we're working on it.
>>
> No, but that is a common problem with the two-way nature of the
> relationship element, ie the parings of isFormatOf and hasFormat.
> Aggregation and reversioning cause similar problems.
>
>> If anyone wants to feed ideas or experience into this
>> process please reply here or if you are able to
>> participate and actually do stuff please contact
>> me.
>>
> I think this might related to a problem which Gayle Calverley has had
> where different technical formats of a video stream are available for
> different bandwidths. Her case has some unique features, but some of the
> more general features might be common.
Can you post her email please ? Or could she respond here ?
Cheers
andy heath
>
> Phil.
>
>
>> Andy Heath
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>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I found your recent debate regarding secondary metadata fascinating
>>> particularly as I have to investigate it as part of a literature
>>> review for
>>> the JORUM+ project.
>>>
>>> I would be grateful if anybody could confirm this for me but strictly
>>> speaking secondary metadata is "used to describe Features of the
>>> description
>>> rather than the resource" and therefore is another term for
>>> 'metametadata',
>>> is this correct? So examples of secondary metadata would be creator
>>> and date
>>> of creation of the metadata record? With that in mind, the issue of
>>> subjective comments about resources being termed as secondary
>>> metadata is
>>> incorrect and should fields like the annotation field be included as a
>>> metadata field as this is undoubtedly going to lead to confusion on this
>>> subject?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>>
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>> andy
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