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Hoooray...
At last... Its only taken 18 months since I first suggested this for
people to finaly cotton on...
Keep up the good work :-D
Steve
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One should collaborate with them. Jean Cocteau 1929
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From: The CETIS Metadata Special Interest Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Hollands
Sent: 09 September 2003 13:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Aida's faceted vocabulary model
Hi everyone,
The issues that Lorna raises about how to implement a faceted
vocabulary in practice are of course very important but are secondary
to decisions about the composition of the vocabulary, and the two
issues need to be considered separately.
How the final vocabulary is used by cataloguers will in many cases
differ from how it is presented to searchers and is entirely
dependent in both cases upon the context of that use.
There are a number of precedents for using such a vocabulary for both
cataloguing and searching within the RDN going way back to the ROADS
eLib project and I'm sure scores of other examples could be cited
contributors to this list :)
It is technically relatively easy to present a useable facted
vocabulary for cataloguing (where the hierarchy is presented) and
flatten that out into a single list of terms for presentation to a
searcher.
I like Aida's model as it seems the best fit for producing rich
descriptions. I personally believe that dumbing down the vocabulary
to make things simple for the end user would be a mistake if it meant
that the descriptions resulting were poorer and the vocabulary is a
kludge.
I'm sure we can achieve a faceted vocabulary that is *both* richly
descriptive and useable for cataloguing and searching.
Cheers.
Lorna Campbell wrote:
>
>Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:05:01 +0100
>From: "Lorna M. Campbell" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: learningResourceType vocabulary discussion
>
>Hi Aida,
>
>Thank you very much for your mail. You certainly haven't missed the
>point and your comments add significantly to the debate. The
>technique that you have outlined below has already been considered
>by various groups who have tried to address this particularly
>thorny issue. I absolutely agree that this is the obvious ideal
>solution although a couple of issues remain. Clearly we would need
>to create the two
>facets of the vocabulary and decide on their terms, this in itself
>could constitute a large, but in my opinion, very valid research
>project. We also need to consider how we would present such a
>faceted vocabulary to metadata creators and searchers. Would the
>vocab be
>presented as two separate lists with at least one classification
>from each list being mandatory? Or would it be better to present
>users with a single list? Any further comments or suggestions on
>the practical creation and implementation of a faceted vocabulary
>of this kind would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks again
>Lorna
>
>Aida Slavic wrote:
>
>
>
>>Lorna,
>>I have only one suggestion for a vocabulary building technique that
>> may help.
>>
>>Analysing the suggested vocabulary I can see at least two main
>>criteria for the organization of concepts
>> A) type by the function the resource
>> has in education
>>
>> B) type by form of presentation
>>
>>These are mutually exclusive categories of concepts and the
>>educational resources are often a combination of those. Dublin Core
>> Type is a good example of a 'pure' vocabulary, it has only one
>>criterion. In the case of educational material I think at least two
>> are needed. This means two facets of mutually exclusive concepts
>>otherwise the resulting vocabulary is cross-classification ('apples
>> and bicycles') I think the following would facilitate discussion
>>(please note that this is only an example of vocabulary structure
>>and not suggestion of real vocabulary and I may have made
>>mistakes)
>>
>>A FUNCTION
>>
>>A1 for practice / training
>> exercise
>> written
>> practical
>> experiments (?)
>>A2 for evaluation
>> A21 test
>> A211 type of test 1
>> A212 type of test 2 etc.
>> A22 questionnaire
>> A23 written exercise(?)
>> A24 interview
>> A25 mixed
>>
>>A3 instructional material
>> A31 lecture notes
>> A32 slides
>> A33 examples
>> A34 mixed
>>
>>A4 combination of exercise/evaluation/lecture
>>
>>
>>B FORM OF PRESENTATION
>> B1 simulation (?)
>> B2 graphical presentation
>> B21 images
>> B211 still images
>> B212 moving images
>> B22 graphs
>> diagrams
>> charts
>> B23 drawings
>> B24 sketches etc.
>> B3 audio recording
>> B4 text
>> B51 questionnaire
>> B52 narrative etc.
>> B5 objects
>> B6 events
>> B7 mixed forms
>>
>>This kind of presentation may help to see what kind of vocabulary
>>may be needed to work together ...for instance one can have
>>A31 + B4 Lecture in the form of Video recording (moving images)
>>I think that provision needs to be made for expressing a
>>combination.
>>
>>Hierarchical organization helps to expand or collapse specificity.
>>It enables easier mapping and vocabulary expansion - while a
>>discussion is going on. It well shows gaps and 'holes'
>>If this is done properly the hierarchy can easily be collapsed and
>>the number of concepts reduced. The last stage is to decide what
>>terms/symbols/codes will be used to present concepts.
>>
>>I accept that you may have already gone through the phase above and
>> that the suggested vocabulary is the result but it would
>>facilitate discussion if it would be grouped by criterion.
>>
>>I hope I haven't missed the point here.
>>
>>Aida
>>
>>
>>
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