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Re: ECGs at the scene for thrombolysis

From:

Rowley Cottingham <[log in to unmask]>

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Accident and Emergency Academic List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:40:00 +0100

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> In medicine we are seriously in danger of the politicians throwing the
> patient out with the bath water. Just as we write copious notes and
> perform "just in case" investigations to cover our backs now,
> politicians want "performance targets" and "audit" to cover their
> backsides. Medicine is no longer patient centred. All the studies that
> try to show that listening to the patient, comforting the patient, and
> treating their dis-ease has significant benefits are rubbished by the
> statisticians because they are too ill defined. Unfortunately people are
> ill defined individuals and so for some patients the best management is
> to keep them at home with pain relief, aspirin and perhaps a
> beta-blocker, for some it is aggressive pre-hospital thrombolysis and
> emergency angioplasty. For many a gentle ambulance ride in to a relaxed
> well staffed CCU where they are smoothly taken along their individual
> management path is the answer. Perhaps what the ambulance crews should
> be looking at with the acute coronary syndrome patients is aspirin, GTN,
> oxygen and EMLA at the i.v. sites unless i.v. pain relief or
> anti-arhythmics are needed immediately. Perhaps relaxing music in the
> ambulance saloon would be better than thrombolysis. Who has actually
> done a properly controlled clinical trial of traditional fifty years ago
> nursing versus the "you can't go on a bed pan now because I'm writing up
> your care plan" treatment that patients all too frequently get nowadays?
> When paramedics started putting up i.v.'s every trauma patient had
> normal blood pressures maintained. Now we realise this is not the best
> management. Just because we have the ability to give pre-hospital
> thrombolysis does not mean it is appropriate for everyone - and I'm not
> talking about contra-indications, I'm talking about the whole of the
> patient - the physical, psychological, social and spiritual aspects. How
> many of you have looked at your patients in these terms over the last
> week? Was it just philosophy we learnt and forgot in first year at
> medical school? Is the Emergency Department too busy to consider the
> patient as a whole?
>
>
>
> Please, we must stop trying to jump through hoops for politicians. They
> always have, and always will sh** on us from a great height. Patients
> have faith in us, and trust us, and are the ones who give us the
> chocolates, the flowers, the wine and the whisky. We need the right to
> explain their options, ask them what they want, and then allow them to
> have it, without the risk of being punished for not pushing them in to a
> pidgeon hole. My suspicion is that it might prove to be the cheaper
> option.
>
>
>
> Vic Calland
>
>
>
>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
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> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>You could say that there are only
> =
> a limited
> number of debates in medicine, and just like jokes, each new one is a =
> variant
> of the old core ones. I think this debate is actually focussed around =
> whether
> what the Government has set as targets really is the best management of
> patients. We have traditionally been taught against considering Fred =
> Bloggs as
> the &#8220;MI in bed 4&#8221;, but statisticians cannot cope with each =
> person
> being an individual with their own personal path through life. They
> must =
> take all
> MI&#8217;s proven by biochemical test, coronary angiography,
> electrocardiography etc as a homogenous group and subject them all to =
> exactly
> the same treatment because that has been shown to be statistically more
> effective than other treatments. We, as physicians, have to follow these
> protocols or guidelines, because if we do not then (i) our peers land
> us =
> in the
> shit because they want more expert witness work and (ii) our department
> =
> doesn&#8217;t
> get the money to treat people because we didn&#8217;t jump through the =
> burning
> hoop with the pom-pom on our collar. </span></font></p>
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>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
> Roman"><span
> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>In medicine we are seriously in =
> danger of
> the politicians throwing the patient out with the bath water. Just as
> we =
> write
> copious notes and perform &#8220;just in case&#8221; investigations to =
> cover
> our backs now, politicians want &#8220;performance targets&#8221; and =
> &#8220;audit&#8221;
> to cover their backsides. Medicine is no longer patient centred. All
> the =
> studies
> that try to show that listening to the patient, comforting the patient,
> =
> and
> treating their dis-ease has significant benefits are rubbished by the
> statisticians because they are too ill defined. Unfortunately people
> are =
> ill
> defined individuals and so for some patients the best management is to =
> keep
> them at home with pain relief, aspirin and perhaps a beta-blocker, for =
> some it
> is aggressive pre-hospital thrombolysis and emergency angioplasty. For =
> many a
> gentle ambulance ride in to a relaxed well staffed CCU where they are =
> smoothly
> taken along their individual management path is the answer. Perhaps
> what =
> the
> ambulance crews should be looking at with the acute coronary syndrome =
> patients
> is aspirin, GTN, oxygen and EMLA at the i.v. sites unless i.v. pain =
> relief or
> anti-arhythmics are needed immediately. Perhaps relaxing music in the =
> ambulance
> saloon would be better than thrombolysis. Who has actually done a =
> properly controlled
> clinical trial of traditional fifty years ago nursing versus the =
> &#8220;you can&#8217;t
> go on a bed pan now because I&#8217;m writing up your care plan&#8221;
> treatment that patients all too frequently get nowadays? When paramedics
> started putting up i.v.&#8217;s every trauma patient had normal blood =
> pressures
> maintained. Now we realise this is not the best management. Just
> because =
> we
> have the ability to give pre-hospital thrombolysis does not mean it is
> appropriate for everyone &#8211; and I&#8217;m not talking about
> contra-indications, I&#8217;m talking about the whole of the patient =
> &#8211;
> the physical, psychological, social and spiritual aspects. How many of =
> you have
> looked at your patients in these terms over the last week? Was it just
> philosophy we learnt and forgot in first year at medical school? Is the
> Emergency Department too busy to consider the patient as a whole? =
> </span></font></p>
>
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> Roman"><span
> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
> Roman"><span
> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Please, we must stop trying to =
> jump through
> hoops for politicians. They always have, and always will sh** on us
> from =
> a
> great height. Patients have faith in us, and trust us, and are the ones
> =
> who
> give us the chocolates, the flowers, the wine and the whisky. We need =
> the right
> to explain their options, ask them what they want, and then allow them =
> to have
> it, without the risk of being punished for not pushing them in to a =
> pidgeon
> hole. My suspicion is that it might prove to be the cheaper =
> option.</span></font></p>
>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
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Best wishes,


Rowley Cottingham

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