Gerald I would be interested in hearing more although Iaccept te rest of the
list may not be, perhaps you could mail me off list at
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Audrey
>===== Original Message From Discussion on theoretical and research issues in
counselling psychology <[log in to unmask]> =====
>Hello Pat
>Totally agree with you about organized religions, however as a medium I've
>glimpsed other realms. Nothing lke the organized religions would have us
>believe though.
>Best
>Gerald
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: 03 April 2003 13:19
>Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs
>
>
>>Organized religion of any kind just doesn't do it for me no matter what
>they
>>promise. I simply am not a believer when you leave this earth that's it.
>>That's why I am on an organ donor list. I forsee nothing after this. Rules
>>of religion to me are man made laws put together by groups to control the
>>masses and then of course as I said before voila (hate the french) wars.
>>Pat
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rennie, Steve [HES]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:06 AM
>>Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs
>>
>>
>>> Not just suicide bombers Pat. The Koran is very specific about what
>awaits
>>Muslim warriors who fall in battle when they get to paradise. There is a
>lot
>>about dusky doe eyed virgins and even more about the various exotic fruits
>>that will form their diet, the fountains that will play and the sherberts
>>they will drink. The whole is rather more vividly realised than the
>>Christian version and may be interpreted by the terminally cynical as good
>>early marketing. There is a nice contrast to be made with the Norse version
>>of transition to Asgard, where the women have a somewhat more interesting
>>set of roles. It does make you wonder just what attracted early Christians
>>to the harp playing while sitting on clouds images.
>>>
>>> Stephen Rennie
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [log in to unmask] [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:34 PM
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs
>>> >
>>> > Just to add a little levity I hope there is enough to go around
>>> > Pat
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Pamela Harper <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
><mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:58 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs
>>> >
>>> > Hello Audery
>>> >
>>> > It is interesting you talk about suicide bombers in connection
>>with spirituality. Apparently, I did not hear it my self I was just told,
>>Sadam is promising volunteer suicide bombers that when they die there will
>>be six vestile virgins waiting for them on the other side. With an offer
>>like that how can any virile young man refuse.
>>> >
>>> > Pamela and power
>>> >
>>>
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