Not sure about BACP, but UKCP accept it! Strange world.
Actually, NLP seems to be based on some very good research in terms of
cognition, its procedures and treatment theory however are another thing.
We had a long discussion about this in a hypnotherapy group I'm on. NLPers
do have some cult-like aspects and always appear very psychologically naive
to me. The training is also incredibly brief.
Unfortunately, one of its founders (who shall remain nameless) has a serious
ongoing cocaine and alcohol problem and tends to toss of new theories and
treatments let and right - promptly abandoning them for his next new idea.
On the other hand, one could same the same about Scott Peck and I know a few
counsellors who remain devoted to his ideas.
Ian
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From: Discussion on theoretical and research issues in counselling
psychology [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Shlomit C.
Schuster
Sent: 02 April 2003 15:04
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Subject: NLP technique recognized by Bacp?
Dear all,
I just am curious to know if there is an official statement available
of Bacp or any other professional counseling organization about NLP and
there techniques. As I already stated before is seems to me that NLP people
are into a quite cheap type of bigtalk nonsense under the "science" flag
An other EST phenomenon but now claiming to do mind processing
Has this group been carefully investigated? It seems to me nothing but a
true sect, although some accredited psychologists seem to support this
group. But so what.. . Please go out and encounter them to get a taste of
what they do and how. Just blablabla brainwash, no dialogue what so ever
possible. If any non NLP person has a different opinion I look forwards to
hearing this
Sincerely,
Shlomit
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Journal of Radical Psychology
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From: "Henry Whitfield" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: New Member
> Dear Mark,
>
> One of the 'Power Therapies' is an NLP technique
>
> http://www.tir.org/metapsy/sorensen.htm . Visual/ Kinesthetic
> Dissociation (V/KD). The link is an interview of someone who trained in
> all for power therapies that Charles Figley brought together for his
> study
>
> The main developer of TIR Dr. F. Gerbode was familiar with Gestalt
> However I think he was more impressed with Rogers, Freud, Polanyi, Kuhn
> and Tart. TIR is based on a freudian concept of chains of traumatic
> incidents feeding each other. Its person centred side is quite Rogerian,
> although different in that TIR is more directive. In terms of
> effectiveness I would say TIR was a large stride forward, rather than a
> refinement. There are of course simlarities between most techniques. I
> don't know if anything is truly from another planet. On a theoretical
> level TIR has lots of old, well established ideas in it. Pavlov is
> another influence. It is on a practical level that it comes into its
> own. The method of teaching and applying it is very well structured. It
> is so clear what to do that an experienced practitioner can almost
> enable a person to overcome their trauma without having to think about
> it. They define very clearly what does or doesn't make a session
> effective, and the model works a treat
>
> I have heard the name but am not familiar with William Emerson. Do you
> have an links to article on his work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Henry
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> From: Discussion on theoretical and research issues in counselling
> psychology [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Dean
> Sent: 02 April 2003 10:12
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: New Member
>
>
> Henry
> Welcome
>
> Having had a quick look through the material at: http://www.tir.org/ I
> find myself wondering how these "Power Therapies" differ substantively
> from some of the NLP techniques. I can also see Gestalt and Psychodrama
> in there. I'd be interested to know if TIR has developed independently
> or is it developed from these earlier models. Is it an
> evolution/refinement or a 100 Monkey effect? Also have you come across
> William Emerson's work on Stress and Trauma? Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion on theoretical and research issues in counselling
> psychology [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Norman
> Claringbull
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: New Member
>
>
> Dear Henry,
>
> I should be most interested to hear from you about the research backing
> your claim that TIR is a useful trauma reduction methodology. In
> addition, have you any statistics, (take up, outcome, evidence based
> practice etc), to support your claim that TIR is "one of the leading
> methods for resolving PTSD"
>
>
> Norman
>
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