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Re: FW: Are printed COM documents still available on subscription ?

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Patrick Overy <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:14:24 +0000

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Dear Chris and colleagues,

Thanks for this explanation - it takes so much
investigation to find out how much is missing from the
official databases, something we raised at the meeting of
EDC coordinators in Brussels - although there was very
little sign of anyone official seeing this as a failing.
I agree that a list of additions on EUR-LEX would be one
way of helping to plug the gap.

Best wishes
Patrick

>
> Finding the latest COMDOCS is not quite as simple as that...
>
> In the first place, it is not easy to identify the latest additions to the
> Documents of Public Interest "chronological" list, because it is not truly
> chronological. The documents are listed in numerical order each month, so
> new documents may be inserted at any position in the current month's list,
> not necessarily at the foot of the list.
>
> Secondly, the Documents of Public Interest do not include COMDOCS which are
> preparatory legislation. For those, you have to go to EUR-Lex Legislation in
> Preparation, where chronological lists are not available.
>
> Thirdly, not all language versions of COMDOCS are published simultaneously,
> so finding the latest additions in Spanish or Swedish, say, is even more
> difficult, because they may be added to an earlier month, where the original
> language version is located, and not to the current month. So let's not
> forget the needs of non-English relays.
>
> If the Commission doesn't relent on stopping distribution of paper COMDOCS,
> the very least they should do is to provide proper daily/weekly lists of
> latest additions to EUR-Lex, with a separate list for each language.  That
> might be worth campaigning for, perhaps?
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Chris LAMB                                  mailto:[log in to unmask]
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>
> >From: Patrick Overy <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: FW: Are printed COM documents still available on subscription
> >?
> >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:52:06 +0000
> >
> >If you go to Eur-Lex Documents of public interest (latest)
> >a list of monthly additions is available (scroll down to
> >All available documents of public interest and click on
> >Chronological.
> >
> >Patrick
> >
> >   Has anyone found an easy way of checking new additions to the
> > > COMDOCs (given that they are not published in numerical order)?
> > >
> > > Jenny
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Grace Hudson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: 03 March 2003 14:44
> > > To: European Information Centre
> > > Cc: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: FW: Are printed COM documents still available on
> > > subscription?
> > >
> > >
> > > At the EDC co-ordinators meeting in Brussels on Friday/Saturday
> > > 28th/1st we were told that supply of COM docs would cease.  No
> > > announcement had been made before as discussions were continuing, but
> > > it now seems just a question of the final date.   There was not much
> > > optimism that lobbying would produce results - the decision seemed to
> > > have been sprung on the relays unit.  Electronic access, particularly
> > > to lengthy COM docs, is far from ideal even if it is fast, but a very
> > > real concern is that the documents may be removed from EUR-Lex at some
> > > stage.  EDCs representatives were all concerned about the change and
> > > asked for reassurance that the documents would be permanently archived.
> > >
> > > Grace Hudson
> > >
> > > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:27:18 -0000 European Information Centre
> > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Hester (and colleagues)
> > > >
> > > > I spoke too soon!  An announcement has just gone up on the EIC website
> >to
> > > > the effect that we will no longer be receiving paper copies of COMDOCs
> > > with
> > > > effect from April.  The reason given is that they are available
> > > > electronically via EUROTALK.
> > > >
> > > > Have EDCs had a similar notice?  Will you be doing anything about it
> > > > (lobbying etc) or is this something the EIA could lobby on behalf of a
> > > group
> > > > of EU relays?
> > > >
> > > > Jenny Lawson
> > > > Bradford EIC (and EIA Chair)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: European Information Centre
> > > > Sent: 28 February 2003 13:45
> > > > To: 'Hester Swift'; [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: RE: Are printed COM documents still available on
> >subscription?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hester
> > > >
> > > > The COMDOCs are still available in print format (we receive them), so
> >you
> > > > should be able to set up a subscription via TSO or their agents.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jenny Lawson
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hester Swift [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: 28 February 2003 11:46
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Are printed COM documents still available on subscription?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been led to believe by EUR-OP and TSO that printed COM docs are
> > > still
> > > > available on subscription, though the fiche version is not. However,
> >both
> > > > EUR-OP and TSO were rather vague and I have heard elsewhere that
> >printed
> > > COM
> > > > docs have ceased.
> > > >
> > > > Please could anyone clarify the situation for me?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > Hester Swift
> > > >
> > > > European Union Librarian
> > > > The Law Society Library
> > > > 113 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1PL
> > > >
> > > > Tel: 020 7316 5721
> > > > Fax:  020 7831 1687
> > > >
> > > > Email:  [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient then
> >you
> > > > must not copy
> > > > it, forward it, use it for any purpose, or disclose it to another
> >person.
> > > > Instead please
> > > > return it to the sender immediately and copy your communication to
> > > > [log in to unmask] Please then delete your copy from your
> > > system.
> > > > Please also note that the author of this email is not authorised to
> > > conclude
> > > > any
> > > > contract on behalf of the Law Society by email. Thank you.
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > > Grace Hudson
> > > EDC, J.B. Priestley Library
> > > University of Bradford, Bradford BD7 1DP
> > > Tel: (01274) 233402 Email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >----------------------
> >Patrick Overy
> >EDC Librarian
> >
> >University of Exeter
> >Law Library
> >Amory Building
> >Rennes Drive
> >EXETER
> >EX4 4RJ
> >tel. (01392) 263356 fax.no. (01392)263196
> >e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >internet http://www.ex.ac.uk/library/internet/eurostudies.html
>
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Patrick Overy
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EXETER
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tel. (01392) 263356 fax.no. (01392)263196
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