I don't think this is over the top - helpful, rather...
yes, I see the point about the confidentiality of having 
subscribed - if folk want to make themselves known and 
don't mind their details being shared I guess that they 
will by sending a message anyway. 
Annie

 
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:48:54 +0000 Rebekah Pratt 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> The organisation that provides the facility for this list advise that the 
> subscriber list is kept confidential to the list owner.  I think this is 
> rightly observing a consent issue - in that it is usually understood that 
> when people join a list as a subscriber they do so because they want to be 
> part of the forum, and haven't agreed to necessarily share their details 
> with other people.  If people still want the list of those subscribed I 
> will have to check with JISC Mail about their regulations.  I suspect it 
> would involve some clarity on why people want a list of subscribers, what 
> they will do with the information and finding a way to get everyone's consent.
> 
> In relation to agreeing guidelines I agree that keeping it open as possible 
> is a good thing.  A different list I am a member of has been having a very 
> difficult time with people posting inappropriate messages.  Having some 
> guidelines seems useful for times when there are complaints about list 
> activity.  I like the statement in Annie's email below:
> 
> "postings are welcome that fit with a commitment to psychologies that 
> contribute to community well-being, power sharing, social
> justice and social support"
> 
> I could include the above statement, and the JISC guidelines (list below) 
> in the welcome message to people - or is that OTT?
>     * Respect copyright when forwarding messages, if in doubt check with 
> the author
>     * Respect people's privacy, don't give out the private email addresses 
> or contact details of others
>     * Think before cross-posting, some people belong to more than one list
>     * Don't call someone names, are overtly rude, or are blatantly 
> sarcastic or condescending
>     * Watch where that reply is going, should it go to the sender or the list?
>     * Send your commands to the right address, [log in to unmask]
>     * Make sure your email address is correct
>     * Complain to the list owner, not the list
>     * Suspend mail when going away, you can always catch up via the archives
>     * Don't send attachments to JISCmail lists, use the files area 
> associated with your list
>     * Use a meaningful subject line, it will increase the chances of it 
> being read and found
>     * Write relevant messages appropriate to the purpose of the list
>     * Don't quote an entire message when replying this leads to very long 
> messages
>     * Keep your lines short and don't send long messages, waffle is 
> off-putting
>     * Use a short, well-designed signature Only use ASCII (plain) text ie 
> don't use pound (£) signs
> 
> 
> Rebekah
> 
> 
> At 14:44 05/03/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >Rebekah,
> >Thanks so much for setting up this discussion list -
> >i'm already finding it productive and helpful to make
> >contact with others and witness discussions - nice to have
> >like minded messages occassionally to lift my spirits
> >or challenge me to think when faced with the endless
> >bureacracy that comes thro the ether....
> >I'd like to have a print out too of subscribers if that is
> >possible to find.
> >Like Carolyn, I don't like too much regulation tho I
> >suppose if there is a real risk of being bomarded with
> >things that won't lift my spirits or challenge me that
> >could change - i find my delete button works quite quickly
> >but there would be a real  problem  if attachements are
> >sent which can overload my mailbox.
> >
> >I don't understand how access is controlled but may be we
> >could simply specify something along the lines of postings
> >are welcome that fit with a commitment to psychologies that
> >contribute to community well-being, power sharing, social
> >justice and social support.
> >
> >
> >Annie
> >On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:10:03 +0100 Carolyn Kagan
> ><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Rebekah
> > > My preference as always is for least restriction possible (this maight
> > > change if the list began to add irrelevantly to the hoards of emails
> > > received). I'm also not particularly infavour ofany guideliens other
> > > than a commitment to a value based community psychology.
> > >
> > > Is there any way of seeing the list of subscribers? I cant work this out
> > > from the site.
> > > Best wishes
> > > carolyn
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