This sounds as though it would go some way to answering my query about plan
units. We would, however, need something more than just village, suburb,
nucleated settlement etc. We need to sub-divide a settlement up into say an
area around the church of perhaps rather loose settlement form which might
be the original settlement nucleus, and another area set along a road with
regular equal-sized plots which looks like a later addition, and then
another area further along the road with different size plots which may be
another episode of planning etc.
In the same way an industrial quarter might be sufficient for a broad
Historic Landscape Characterisation but would need further sub-division for
a more intensive study.
I would prefer to be able to assign SMR numbers to these units rather than
having a separate series of plan element numbers.
Mike Shaw
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlisle, Philip" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Stafford Shoe Manufacturing Quarter
> Roger
> What I'm proposing is a thesaurus not just a wordlist - these already
exist
> for many HLCs out there although there is no definitive list as far as I
> know.
> The idea of the thesaurus is to link similar concepts together. In this
> thesaurus for example at the moments we are breaking it down loosely into
> the top terms of Urban Landscape Use/Characteristics (ULUC), Rural
Landscape
> Use/Characteristics (RLUC), Administrative areas (AA), Settlement Types
> (ST).
>
> The adaptability and functionality of the thesaurus will allow the user to
> index Laxton in Nottinghamshire as for example OPEN FIELD SYSTEM (RLUC),
> VILLAGE (ST), ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH (AA), WAPENTAKE(AA).
>
> Anyone searching the database for any of these terms will retrieve this
> record but the beauty of the thesaurus structure is that concepts which
are
> not the same but may be related in some way such as ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH
> and HUNDRED can be related and the search extended to include these
Related
> Terms.
>
> I agree that some of the terms within the thesaurus are difficult to pin
> down on the ground or even on a map but I don't think this should stop us
> recording them. We all know what a suburb is and, I'm sure, could all name
> an example of one. The same applies for commercial quarter.
>
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger M Thomas [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 26 March 2003 18:33
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Stafford Shoe Manufacturing Quarter
>
>
> A list would doubtless be helpful, but I think it is important to
recognise
> that we are actually dealing with a number of very different kinds of
> things, which are likely to have very different kinds of manifestations
(or
> none at all) on the ground itself.
>
> By way of example, within your list, 'coppice' (e.g.) is a type of
land-use,
> 'suburb' and 'commercial quarter' are loose descriptive terms for things
> which may have no precise definition or boundaries, and 'manorial esate'
and
> bishopric' are historical tenurial administrative units which may only be
> definable from documentary evidence.
>
> It's easy enough to keep these separate kinds of concepts separate, but it
> is important to realise that they are distinct as concepts and in the
> physical traces which each leaves.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Roger
>
> <<< "Carlisle, Philip" <[log in to unmask]> 3/25
> 10:01a >>>
> Dear all
>
> Talk about synchronicity. On Friday a meeting with Worcestershire SMR took
> place here at the NMR. They wanted to discuss their plans for transition
> from SMR to HER and part of this relates to landscape characterization. As
a
> result they have asked about the possibility of developing a thesaurus
> relating to HLCs and landscape description.
>
> I began working on this yesterday but as I was only on digest, and after
my
> last outing on SMRFORUM, I didn't join in the discussion about Quarters.
>
> I will carry on working on it over the next few days with the hope of
> posting a pdf to the list for constructive comments and additional
> terminology suggestions.
>
> It's all very rough at the mo but already includes term such as:
>
> Coppice, Open Field System, Suburb, Nucleated Settlement, Deer Park,
> Industrial Quarter, Commercial Quarter, Wold, Plantation, Civil Parish,
> Wapentake, Manorial Estate and Bishopric.
>
> Just some of the terms which will hopefully enable users to accurately
> describe landscape elements.
>
> As ever the usual caveats apply with regards to the thesaurus, namely:
> a)it is only a draft
> b) it is not English Heritage trying to force people ot do things the way
> they want
> and
> c) it is incomplete
>
> Hope this is of interest
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tees Archaeology [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 23 March 2003 14:19
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Stafford Shoe Manufacturing Quarter
>
>
> Your query has prompted me to consider putting the Ironmasters District
in
> Middlesbrough on the SMR as an entity as well as its separate sites. The
> existing term 'INDUSTRIAL ESTATE' would suit our purposes as the district
> was an area of land specifically divided in to plots for manufacturing or
> commercial concerns with shared infrastructure.
>
> Peter, Tees Archaeology
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:33 PM
> Subject: Stafford Shoe Manufacturing Quarter
>
>
> > In the mid 19th century Staffords Boot and Shoe industry changed from a
> > small scale affair with lots of village outworkers to a mechanized
factory
> > oriented national business apparently surpassed in scale only by
> > Northampton. The many manufacturers seemed to focus their factory
building
> > activities on a tightly defined area to the north of the town. The
> > Victorian
> > district that grew from this "green field development" activity has a
very
> > distinctive character and was once a complicated mixture of shoe
factories
> > and houses and related businesses, such as carton manufacturers sawmills
> > and
> > timber yards, as well as all the usual domestic stuff like corner shops,
> > pubs etc. Many of the factories were built amongst the houses some with
> > semi-domestic facades, one even bucked the industrial trend of small
paned
> > windows by using conventional domestic sashes. Some of the terraces have
> > strategically placed carriage entrances to allow access to small
"garden"
> > workshop businessess such as sawmills for the manufacture of wooden
heels.
> > The SMR site type thesaurus has names for many of these individual
> elements
> > but I can't find a suitable term to describe the district as a
distinctive
> > whole. It isn't a model village which implies the development input of a
> > single person or company nor could anyone realistically describe the
area
> > as
> > being the product of a utopian vision. On the other hand it isn't just
any
> > group of terraced streets which consists wholly of housing with the
> > occasional shop. For our Historic Environment Record the area needs to
be
> > represented both as individual sites and as a distinctive district. Does
> > anyone know of a suitable term that I may have overlooked, or if not are
> > there any ideas out there for a term and it's place in the thesaurus
> > heirarchy - Industrial or settlement?
> > thanks - Andrew Kirkham
> > Information Systems Manager(Historic Environment)
> > Staffordshire County Council
> > Development Services Department
> > Environmental Planning Unit
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
>
>
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