> I have to say that I am not looking forward to a significant pay cut when
I
> become a consultant later this year (if I get a job that is - economically
> it would be better to take a 2A clinical fellow post somewhere that is
paid
> the same as the SpRs!!!) [Simon Carley]
But you're missing one small point Simon; clinical fellows don't get this
so-called banding, they simply get additional duty paid at an hourly rate,
with some room for local flexibility. But most clinical fellows and staff
grades are only going to get around time-and-a-half to double time for
additional hours worked, there's no way any of them are getting triple or
quadruple time or more, like the training grades do.
> I'm with Adrian and Simon here. I've criticised Andrew enough in the past
> (and I still think he pushed too much for shift work in the early 90s);
but
> his job was to negotiate a good deal for juniors. In this he succeeded
> admirably, particularly with the penalty payments for non-compliance by
the
> trust; and recognition of premium rates for unsocial hours. [Matt Dunn]
Fine if it worked like a penalty system and the trusts started reducing
juniors' hours, but this is very slow to filter through the system, probably
because HMG didn't realise how dependent the service was on juniors and how
overstretched juniors were before, hence the current difficulty in New Deal
compliance. If BFN could work a similar approach to the consultants'
settlement (if there ever is one) then we could be on to a winner. You know,
punitive payments for hours worked beyond your normal sessions etc. First
they've got to drop this "normal" day from 8am to 7pm lark; whatever
happened to managers' time of 9 to 5? Remember that under the Hawker scheme
(standard day up to 10pm) very few consultants would have been affected
anyway, except yours truly, yes you've guessed it, the good old A&E
consultants!
Adrian Fogarty
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