Deborah, as moderator I am, in a way, responsible for this list being used
for the purpose for which it was originally designed.
The List is designed for the submission of work which in the opinion of the
submitting poet has reached a stage when the poet can not really see the way
forward for the poem and is desirous of help, advice, reassurance, whatever
from a group of people who are at a similar or better level of ability but
are nevertheless friends inside the context of this List
Most advice is well intentioned and kindly, it is part of the charm of this
List, such as it is, that advice while robust sometimes is to be taken as
well intentioned and hopefully helpful.
Anodyne comments are pleasing and encouraging but in terms of poetic
development unhelpful mostly.
Occasionally and happily rarely someone says something that might appear
hurtful. In the interests of the happy functioning of the List and everyone
else's Inbox, differences of opinion are asked to be resolved backchannel,
which is privately by an exchange of e-mails and not through the auspices of
the List.
Can I please remind everyone that the List is the property of a University
and as such Government funded to some degree and is not here for flaming,
abuse or personal attacks.
The Worm, a subsidiary past time of the List is a monthly issue of finished
poems submitted to a selection panel and any finished work should be
referred to that panel for evaluation and hopefully choice.
Please understand that the written word is not the same as the spoken word
which is often accompanied by a face and eyes and more can be read into a
written message than in initially intended.
Please accept this explanation in the manner which I intend it which is a
polite reminder of the protocols and manners of the List. This applies to
all users and anyone reading this message.
Let peace reign and poetry prosper!
Regards Arthur.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deborah Russell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: Delicat pastel/Deb - Colin Re: grasshopper


> The term workshop implies that this is a place for work. I posted for
> constructive comments, not sarcastic remarks. Your rudeness indicates that
> you have no interest in providing information that is useful or
insightful.
> It also indicates that you are plural and have a fantasy about what is
> wasting your time. - Deborah
>
> Dear Deborah,
>
>   You write:" I like it 'as is', to me, it says what I want it to say - at
> least for now."
>   If you feel so happy with your poem as is, why are you posting it to a
> workshopping list?
> Why not put it on a website, ot post it off to Pakistan? We post poems
here
> to get feedback on them, because we are not all as convinced as you are
that
> our work is perfect as it stands.
>
> If you don't want honest feedback, good or bad, don't post poems here.
There
> are plenty of other lists where the members simply read each others' poems
> and say 'Yours is lovely too.' The Works list isn't like that. We post
here
> to be made aware of the strengths and weaknesses of our poetry.If that's
not
> what you want, then you are wasting other members' time when they take the
> trouble to comment on your work.
> Kind regards,
>         grasshopper
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deborah Russell" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [THE-WORKS] Delicat pastel/Deb - Colin
>
>
>  > Don't you think it's better to appreciate your personal understanding?
>  > This poem is the same nature and form of my work published by Moshin
> Jaffe,
>  > Editor of Tapestry, News International. (Pakistan)
>  > I like it 'as is', to me, it says what I want it to say - at least for
> now.
>  >
>  > Thanks for commenting.
>  >
>  > - Deborah
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Deb
>  >
>  > Some great phrases here such as, "perfumed whispers that die in
> captivity"
>  > and "your tongue caresses mine as though eternity exists"  but I can't
> say
>  > that I follow all of the poem. I follow it more than not follow it (I
>  > think).
>  >
>  > Colin
>
>
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