Hi Bob,
One of the thinbgs I get a little concerned about when I use punctuation is
that it takes something away from the words by structuring the thing too
much, perhaps. I write initially without any or much punctuation and
afterwards decide if it needs it. I think the longer or more complicated a
piece is to read, the more likely I am to punctuate, so that sort of makes
sense with the prose linkage/closeness thing.
Soemtimes I think I am a work of short (and round) fiction - looking back at
things written is sometimes reason to scratch one's head a little.
I love your discussion of the use fo jelly moulds and the difference in
taste. Now that is a worthy story and example!!
Cheers,
Frank
> Hi Frank,
> H'm, "close to prose..."
> I sort of feel the whole piece could also be set out without lines, so it
> flows through in sentences and has paragraph breaks. If that were how it
> were presented it "might" lose some of the pauses created by the line
breaks
> - but I was thinking it would probably still give the reader opportunity
to
> get into what you were writing about. It's got commas, it has a flowing
> style... it's got a more natural, easy natured style than an essay, or a
> report, or an article for a magazine or a newspaper.
> And I think you'd be a good writer of short pieces of fiction, a good
> short-story writer, too. There's a narrative quality to your work. I can
> hear different voices (so dialogue may appear and read easily as well).
And
> I sometimes wonder if the boundaries between "prose" and "poetry" are (and
> need to be) blurred... I often find I write pieces I can only call poems -
> they usually have lines that don't reach right across the page. And then
> there's other things that I guess I have to call short-pieces-of-fiction,
or
> prose - often where the lines sort of flow on and on and don't want to
break
> themselves up (though I don't know if I could call them stories).
Sometimes,
> later on, I've found one of the prose bits useful in helping me sort out a
> poem (snaffling a phrase or two and transplanting!). And sometimes I've
come
> across a paragraph in a story or novel and thought "I bet that was first
> written as a poem!"
> I had a schoolfriend whose mum always made jelly in jelly-moulds, alloy
> shapes with flutings and indentations, whereas my mum just made jelly in a
> simple bowl. But the jelly came from identical packets - and we debated
over
> which tasted better! I guess words and phrases can get poured into
different
> shapes.
> Bob
>
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>
> >From: Frank Faust <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Sub - The Dan O'Connell Presents ... - Bob
> >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:39:11 +1000
> >
> >Howdy Bob,
> >
> >Thanks for reading and commenting on this. Very glad you enjoyed and
found
> >merit in the work. I also thought that it might be useful as a reflective
> >thing - it's actually a little bit traumatising to do a feature (in the
> >nicest way of course) if you take it seriously and I felt that penning
some
> >of that process and experience could only be a good thing.
> >
> >Tell me, is it close to prose because of length, or from some style
> >element?
> >I'm genuinely curious, because apart from realising almost as soon as I
> >started that it would be a long piece, with some natural breaks for
> >sequencing and to stay in control, I wrote it in the same way as I do all
> >other pieces. The boundary issue is a genuine curiosity to me. Some folk
> >have suggested I should get into novel-writing, I think because I am
fairly
> >prolific, but I don't believe I could translate myself from verse format
to
> >prose - so again, I'm interested in thoughts around the edges of this.
> >
> >Cheers and thanks,
> >
> >Frank
> >
> >
> > > Hi Frank,
> > > I found this a delight to read. The kind of reflective piece I think
> >it's
> > > important for poets to come across - so thanks for referring us to it!
> >It's
> > > got "Frank" hallmarked into it - gentle, sensitive, and saying clearly
> >what
> > > matters! And even though "This is Frank talking" I can hear what
others
> >have
> > > sometimes said, things I wish I'd done, wish I'd sometimes said...
> > > I enjoyed it.
> > > I also like the way it treads so lightly on the boundary between
poetry
> >and
> > > prose.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Frank Faust <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Sub - The Dan O'Connell Presents ...
> > > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:02:33 +1000
> > > >
> > > >Dear all,
> > > >
> > > >this won't be of interest to everyone, but I've written an account (a
> >very
> > > >long account) of a recent experience as a featured reader at a poetry
> > > >venue. I won't post it here due to size and the risk of boring all to
> > > >tears, but if anyone is interested, the link to the piece is as
> >follows:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>http://www.talesoffaust.com/public/ladies_and_gentlemen_the_Dan_Oconnell_pr
> >esents.html
> > > >
> > > >As always, I'd be delighted to receive some feedback, but understand
if
> >it
> > > >is too long or boring to be bothered with.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >Frank
> > >
> > >
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