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Re: New Sub: Fencing In (A photograph)

From:

Bob Cooper <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:41:31 +0000

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Hi Trish,
Wow! Now it all makes a lot more sense! Maybe I can be so clumsy and
unconnecting in the way I sometimes think. I was trying to make sense of the
title as being "A photograph/ONE photograph" and I was reading it as seeing
things that might be a few different images of the walk. That small word "A"
sort of includes (for you) the hidden words "And taking" A photograph! (and
it didn't include any extra words for me!).
I guess, therefore, the stanza:
"Fence in
hours and weeks
of de-
composing
leaves"
means (in a non-poem way of saying it) "A photograph" was taken of these
leaves..." ... and then "taking the branch inside" means (in the same
non-poem translation) "the photograph - that's still on the negative, in the
camera - was taken inside the house"
Looking at the whole poem, tho, the metaphoric use of "fencing in" (as being
the edges of a photograph) is what the title says - but the poem, I feel,
may need (for thickies like me) a little more said (perhaps about the act of
taking a photograph).
I might feel happier if the photographing/fencing notion was somehow
included in the poem...
Whaddya think?
Bob





>From: Trish Harewood <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: New Sub: Fencing In (A photograph)
>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:13:19 -0000
>
>Dear Bob,
>It's about taking photographs on a walk and how a photograph, being limited
>in it's scope, 'fences in' a landscape as the material fences fence-in a
>landscape.
>That's a mouthful, Slipping out on tarmac is returning from the landscape
>to
>the ordinary world (road). So the photographer is doing the fencing. The
>branch is taken inside the camera.It's not just one photograph so perhaps
>I'd better make that clear somehow.It could be a whole series taken whilst
>on the walk.
>
>Hope that's helpful.
>Trish
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Cooper" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:22 PM
>Subject: Re: New Sub: Fencing In (A photograph)
>
>
> > Hi Trish,
> > I'm not yet able to make a link between the poem and the title. (And I
>keep
> > thinking there's an awful lot of movement for a photograph!)
> > I'll leave the title, then, and focus in on the poem...
> > Which I enjoy until I stumble a little at:
> > "Fence in
> > hours and weeks
> > of de-
> > composing
> > leaves.
> >
> >   Slip out..."
> >
> > And I can't work out who's done (or doing) the fencing! Then I assume
>it's
> > the "we" of the poem who slip out of the spinney - but I could be so
>wrong!
> > Then, even tho there's twigs they haven't taken, they carried in a huge
> > branch!
> > I'm sorry, I'm mega-confused.
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Trish Harewood <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Pennine Poetry Works <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: New Sub: Fencing In  (A photograph)
> > >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:30:17 -0000
> > >
> > >  Talking of paling Arthur, here's something else I'd like to put to
>the
> > >test. Thanks,
> > >
> > >trish
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >FENCING IN:  A PHOTOGRAPH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Not taking
> > >twigs from soil
> > >
> > >we go
> > >
> > >shuffling
> > >
> > >on the muddy banks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >In the wet
> > >
> > >spinney walk
> > >
> > >between
> > >
> > >the black
> > >
> > >chesnut poles.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >By the
> > >
> > >cut and dry
> > >
> > >paling
> > >
> > >name a
> > >
> > >couple of fields.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Fence in
> > >
> > >hours and weeks
> > >
> > >of de-
> > >
> > >composing
> > >
> > >leaves.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Slip out
> > >
> > >on tarmac
> > >
> > >taking
> > >
> > >the branch inside.
> >
> >
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