Hi Martin,
I'm afraid that was a gaffe on my part, the briefest of b/c's
from Harriet which I mistook for a post, and, as Anny said,
it was an extension of my 'sickening' on the witchtrials and
persecution of the Jews.
This is very interesting about the word pulsion, as I didn't quite
understand the term either, but have found your and Anny's
discussion of it most interesting.
And, I'm sorry to say tht I've not seen Keifer's Lilith/s, so
if you'd care to describe those that you've seen, I'd be
glad for the look through your I/eye!
Best,
Rebecca
Rebecca Seiferle
www.thedrunkenboat.com
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From: Martin John Walker <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Nov 3, 2003 2:34 AM
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Subject: Re: something more poetic
I didn't get any mail from Harriet about "sickening, sickening" either. Just
a brief note about this "pulsion" Anny has introduced: I don't quite
understand whether it is being used as a revitalisation of a word that fell
into disuse after the 17th C (it's in the Oxford as "1630, now rare", not in
the Collins) or as the current word for what is moving (in) us, putative
basic urges like those for sex, death, food (but Freud rather neglects
this); the latter is called "drive" or "instinct" ("Trieb" in German) in
Freudian terminology, the word "pulsion" being the French equivalent. Thus
we have the *death instinct (or drive; Todestrieb). But of course pulsion is
a nice word, why not reintroduce it...
Does anyone know one of the versions of Anselm Kiefer's great *Lilith
painting? ~ I've seen 2 and there's at least one more. (Kiefer lives round
here, by the way, in a huge former factory on an estate he is converting
into an artwork, with underground passages etc, no accessible to the public
yet unfortunately.)
Cheers
Martin
quote jobby #8
BUT IT WILL never be
understood what yesterday
was like
we improve the morning
with the rising when we
begin to sleep
the going-down no longer
belongs to us we will
wake up the way
it will end up today
and where the shadows
lay
we enter dreams
and whether dreams stand
where we
lie written who
ever reads this
Paul Wühr circa 1985
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