PS
before anyone jumps on me about this, I assumed Robin meant 16th not 17th
century, which former was what Gaspara Stampa (1523-54), yes, a short life,
was.
Best
Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: Say a poem - Michelangelo
Robin wrote:
>GS is (as far as I know) the only 17thC female sonnet writer.<
not quite, just sticking to Italian there was also Vittoria Colonna
(1490-1547) who was the only female deditacee, as far as I know, of any
Michelangelo poems. Gaspara Stampa and Rilke is an interesting turn, it
involves where one decides is Rilke writing disguised twaddle or some of the
most imaginatively expansive poetry of the century just gone? I find myself
saying'yes, no, yes, no, yes, no ...I don't know'.
Best
Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: Say a poem - Michelangelo
Anny:
> don't know
> Gaspara Stampa and on the net I got to her love poems, do you really think
> that one should throw away years to translate all those sighs... are you
> sure that the translations you mention are really bad, maybe it is the
> original text which shows imperfections all along.
> sorry, nothing personal, just thinking by writing / heh heh
No (I could go into grisly detail, chapter and verse, with ISBN numbers and
a PhD thesis on her work), the English translations really ARE that bad.
GS is (as far as I know) the only 17thC female sonnet writer.
As to "all those sighs" -- read again. Rilke rated her (which was where I
came on her originally) -- I think the first of the Duino Elegies (dave?).
SHAME on you, Anny.
<g>
Robin
[Hardcopy, the main edition seems to be the Biblioteca Universale Rizzoli,
which is more easily available in Italy than here.
R2.]
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