Thank you for sharing your story, I'd thought I had opened a can of worms,
but I believe it is good to hear everyone's view on the matter. I felt
positive with some of the responses. I am also hoping to start my studies
this year in Occ.Health. Thank you
Kennie
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil & Paul <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: competency
> Joseph et al,
>
> I completely disagree. This debate is superb.
>
> I practised in OH and Health & Safety for many years without the
recordable
> qualification. Granted I have just got my degree and am about to record my
> qualification with the NMC but that is besides the point.
>
> I dearly wanted to do the diploma or degree but could never get the
> sponsorship or time off to do it. I practised without for almost 10 years.
> Loved every minute of it but never felt that I had the confidence or
> competence sometimes to make an unbiased judgement on some issues.
>
> I know that on occasions that I acted quite naively and didn't take all
> things I should have into account. What the degree course has given me is
> the ability to go out and search the resources that I now have in order to
> come up with the best solutions. This may come naturally to some but for
> others of us it is a behavior that has to be learnt.
>
> Whilst I agree that there are many nurses doing a damn fine job in OH that
> are not OH qualified educationally, there are many also that don't do OH a
> great deal of favours.
>
> We need to unite, stick together and pull together. OH, employers and
> employees are what matter. They need to go away feeling satisfied that the
> service they have recieved is one that they are glad to have encountered.
> Most will, some won't.
>
> But in order to remain a credible profession education and degrees are the
> way forward. Soon it will not be possible for nurses to qualify
generically
> without one. If you can do it, get yourself on a course and learn.
Education
> is the way forward, we have no choice.
>
> Oh and I got 2:1 - IF I CAN DO IT ANYONE CAN
>
> Neil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOSEPH BUGGY" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: competency
>
>
> This whole discussion (for want of a better word) has become very tedious
> and boring. Where is the professional self esteem - so much defensiveness.
> Ouch!
> Pls rtn to discussing much more interesting topic ..... I look forwrad to
> them
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 07/11/03 01:31pm >>>
> Bob,
>
> It's all very well saying that "unqualified" ( in terms of the OH qual),
> with experience, can (and may I hasten to add) DO provide good services,
> but competency is not just something employers, seek but something we, as
> nurses have a duty to ourselves within the confines of our professional
> fitness to practice in the first place.
>
> What is the difference between having an appropriately qualified nurse in
a
> hospital with quals in say ITU, theatre, orthopaedics etc and in OH? I
don't
> know, in addition of any Health & Safety Advisers who do not have their
> competency in terms of quals gained. For a start, the HSE would be down on
> the employer with a ton of bricks for the employer not having access to
> competent advice and indeed previous writers have said the same.
>
> What we need is not a debate on whether one nurse is better than another,
> but standardisation amongst us ALL in what is acceptable or not, but we
> can't have it all ways.
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> James
>
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