Dear All
To add fuel to this particular fire, I cannot see for the life of me why any
nurse should refuse to give an intradermal injection provided they have been
given appropriate training and have been deemed competent in the technique.
When I trained as a 'proper' nurse (State Registered Nurse) 30 years ago,
Intradermal, Subcuaneous and Intramuscular injection technique was not
optional, it was a requirement of completion of the training, and was in
fact taught within the first 6 weeks of our nursing career in preliminary
training school. Refusal to carry out any of them would have led to
incomplete competancy and failure of the course. Has modern nurse training
gone so far into the realms of social sciences and academia that a basic
skill such as intradermal injection technique is no longer required? Any
person (not just a nurse or physician) is able legally to give any
injection, provided the person receiving it is aware of the status of that
individual, and that the individual has received appropriate training.....
it is not rocket science afterall..!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fields Shirley" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations: dissent?
I certainly wouldn't mind if any of the nurses declined to give, personally
I don't like intra dermal injections and have therefore always refused.
Shirley Fields
OH Manager Burton NHS
-----Original Message-----
From: diane romano woodward [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 02 December 2003 15:02
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Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations: dissent?
All seem to be very positive about nurses doing this.
Is this considered to be an extended role that one can chose not to do? I
remember opting out when working in the NHS some years ago as (I think) it
is possible to cause some disruption to the arm if they are actually immune.
On that basis I felt it was better to let OHP take responsibility, (they get
paid more..)
For those of you in the NHS would you frown upon employing a nurse who
declined to do them, as long as they could do heaf tests, Hep Bs etc?
Best wishes,
Diane
(independent practitioner)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fields Shirley" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations
Hi Chris (remember me)
At Burton one of our nurses is currently undergoing training from the chest
clinic nurse to do BCG's. There is no reason why nurses cannot do this
procedure with adequate training.
Say hi to Sally
Shirley Fields
OH Manager
Burton NHS Trust
-----Original Message-----
From: Baldwin Chris (RFF) Occupational Health Nurse Advisor
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Sent: 02 December 2003 10:01
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Subject: BCG Vaccinations
Good morning everyone,
a question particularly for NHS colleagues. Do NHS Occupational Health
colleagues allow the vaccination to be nurse or doctor administered? your
comments and thoughts on this are appreciated.
chris Baldwin
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