Dear Robert,
I remember well two years ago when we were starting the dig with Gill Juleff
at Brayford in North Devon.
Along came two dowsers who advised they could tell us all about the site:
"Ain't no metal working 'ere, nor no Romans", says he, "just nuts an'
berries, nuts an' berries!"
We all melted away to contain our belly aching laughter in trying not to
rude! Poor chaps, They were stood on the biggest iron slag heap known in the
area!#
Sceptical - no not me!
Kindest regards,
Trevor.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Waterhouse" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MINING-HISTORY] Dowsing
> Dear Phil,
>
> Oh yes it does! Its just that as a serious archaeologist, I don't pretend
to know what I've found with it until I dig it up! It can only be used as a
general guide. As for identifying, let alone finding coal seams with it 200
feet down? I rest my case.
> >
> > From: "Newman, Phil" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Tue 29/Jul/2003 10:07 GMT
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Dowsing
> >
> > Robert,
> >
> > So dowsing works does it?! Shame on you. I thought you were a serious
> > archaeologist.
> >
> > Regards
> > Phil Newman
> > (EH archaeological Investigation, Exeter)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Waterhouse [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:10 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Dowsing
> >
> >
> > Seriously dodgy. Basically, because while dowsing works (albeit for
some
> > people but not others) it is almost impossible to know what the rod/s
are
> > telling you. As an example, I heard recently of a person who paid a
local
> > dowser to find water on their land. Instead, the rods indicated several
> > locations, which when dug produced the following items: Three walls,
one
> > pipe trench (with live electricity cable) and one geological fault, the
> > excavation of which was abandoned when it reached 12 feet - the length
of
> > the JCB bucket - and still had not reached water!
> >
> > The basic problem, is clearly that you don't know what you are getting.
I
> > understand that when using bent coathangers, if the rods go out, its a
solid
> > feature, and if they go in, its negative (this is archaeological
dowsing,
> > which works for me), but I would not like to comment on the likelyhood
of
> > detecting coal seams at depths up to 200 feet........
> >
> > Robert Waterhouse
> > >
> > > From: Simon Chapman <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: Tue 29/Jul/2003 10:02 GMT
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Dowsing
> > >
> > > Some advice please particularly from anyone with the necessary
experience,
> > which I haven't.
> > >
> > > I recently borrowed a map made up from O.S. 1:2500 sheets on which has
> > been drawn the extensive underground workings of several mines which
worked
> > stratified ironstone in three separate seams. These mines are declared
to
> > have been active c.1870 but the map was compiled in 1988 from
information
> > obtained by dowsing.
> > >
> > > The compiler has used this information to produce an estimate of over
2
> > million tons of output during about 6 years of active mining, with a
> > suggestion of export from the area.
> > > Further maps by the same compiler exist for other areas and one at
least
> > has been used by a local author in the only book so far published
regarding
> > the mining history of one locality.
> > >
> > > I have no quibble with dowsing in general as my youngest son was at
one
> > time very good at it, but that was not mining related. However, these
mines,
> > described as "Lost" on the map, do not appear in the Mineral Statistics,
nor
> > have I found any documentary reference to them. In the Geological Survey
> > Memoirs of 1892 the working of the relevant seams is described and is at
> > odds with these maps.
> > >
> > > These maps and the information they contain appears honest and the
date is
> > February 1988, not April 1st. Seam depths are from surface to 200 feet
deep
> > at most, each seam perhaps two feet thick but not all three worked one
above
> > the other, with an estimated 50% extraction.
> > >
> > > My query therefore is how much reliance should I place on maps of such
> > underground workings obtained by dowsing?
> > >
> > > Regards, Simon.
> > >
> >
> >
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