Johns, David
I think you have both missed the point in your posts.
Having worked with many NGO's, many have deliberately chosen to avoid
Charity Status or a 'Royal Charter' precisely because of the restrictions it
places on their lobbying, activism, professionalism. There are several
professional bodies who are neither charities not 'Royally' chartered for
this very reason...
Mark Perkins
-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Drewitt, David (Cultural
Services)
Sent: 29 April 2003 20:07
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO RESTORE
IR AQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
The monarchy has nothing to do with it. It is simply a Royal Charter
because this country is still (for good or bad reasons) a monarchy. Without
a monarchy we would still have to have a Charter or Articles of Association,
or something of the like, for CILIP to exist in law as a corporate body. No
doubt many CILIP members are monarchists and many are anti-monarchists, and
many don't care either way. I have my own personal opinion about monarchy,
but I don't drag it into discussions about the propriety of CILIP taking
political stances.
David Drewitt
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From: john pateman [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:01 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS
TO RESTORE IRAQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
If CILIP can intervene politically now in the debate on the
reconstruction
of Iraq, why could they not have intervened politically in terms of
STOP THE
WAR and NOT IN OUR NAME? If the Royal Charter stops CILIP from
effectively
representing the views of its members, then it should be got rid of.
Who
wants to be associated with a feudal anachronistic institution in
the 21st
century?
>From: Charles Oppenheim <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO
RESTORE
>IRAQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:47:44 +0100
>
>I would have thought that such a statement/lobbying suggested by
Pateman
>is
>contrary to CILIP's Royal Charter, but I leave it to the
constitutional
>experts to comment on that....
>
>Charles
>
>Professor Charles Oppenheim
>Department of Information Science
>Loughborough University
>Loughborough
>Leics LE11 3TU
>01509-223065
>(fax) 01509-223053
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "john pateman" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 9:08 PM
>Subject: Re: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO
RESTORE
>IRAQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
>
>
> > Surely CILIP should have opposed the illegal, immoral and unjust
war on
>Iraq
> > in the first place. British bombs helped to destroy the Iraqi
> > infrastructure and create the conditions which lead to the
destruction
>of
> > Iraq's libraries, museums and cultural heritage. Those bombs
were paid
>for
> > by money which will now not be available to fund Britain's
libraries,
> > schools and hospitals.
> >
> > CILIP should take a more pro-active position on international
affrairs.
> > Where are the CILIP statements on Palestine and Cuba, for
example?
>Reacting
> > after the event is not good enough. When Bush and Blair turn
their
>attention
> > to Syria, Cuba, North Korea and other "terrorist states" CILIP's
voice
>must
> > be amongst those which declares, loud and clear, NO TO WAR.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Tim Buckley Owen <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO
RESTORE
>IRAQI
> > >LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
> > >Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:24:20 +0100
> > >
> > > > MEDIA RELEASE
> > > > Monday 28 April 2003
> > > > For immediate release (Please copy to online discussion
lists)
> > > >
> > > > CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO RESTORE
LIBRARY
>AND
> > >INFORMATION SERVICES IN IRAQ
> > > >
> > > > Leading CILIP members condemn flouting of Hague Convention
and
>demand
>to
> > >know why warnings were ignored
> > > >
> > > > CILIP: the Chartered Institute of Library and Information
>Professionals
> > >has pledged its support for international efforts to restore
library
>and
> > >information services devastated by the war in Iraq. > "> This
is a
>crisis
> > >that requires an international response,> "> says CILIP> '> s
Chief
> > >Executive Bob McKee. > "> It is every bit as devastating for
libraries
>and
> > >information services as it is for museums, which have already
received
>wide
> > >publicity. We are in touch with our colleagues in
international bodies
> > >such as the International Federation of Library Associations
and
> > >Institutions (IFLA) and centres of expertise such as the
British
>Library,
> > >and will be working with them to contribute what we can.> ">
> > > >
> > > > Britain> '> s failure to ratify the Hague Convention on the
>Protection
> > >of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict comes in
for
>particular
> > >criticism by leading CILIP members. > "> The devastation of
Iraq> '> s
> > >major archive, library and museums has placed the coalition in
flagrant
>and
> > >serious beach of the Convention,> "> says Bernard Naylor,
Chair of
>CILIP>
> > >'> s Ethics Panel and a former President of the Library
Association.
> > > >
> > > > Warnings of the risk of destruction of library and
information
>services
> > >in Iraq were given to the British government as long ago as
February,
>adds
> > >Robin Price, Chair of CILIP> '> s Preservation and Conservation
Panel.
> >
> > >"> Both the Prime Minister and the Secretary of State for
Defence were
> > >clearly warned of the possibility of some destruction, and
similar
>warnings
> > >were given in the USA,> "> Mr Price says. > "> No action was
taken.>
>">
> > > > In a letter dated February 5, the Head of the National
Preservation
> > >Office Dr Vanessa Marshall urged Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon:
> "> to
> > >ensure that all cultural heritage sites within Iraq> ...> are
>protected
>in
> > >the event of armed conflict. This includes the built heritage,
as well
>as
> > >libraries, archives and museums.> "> Dr Marshall, who is also
Chair
>of
> > >the United Kingdom and Ireland Blue Shield organisation - the
cultural
> > >equivalent of the Red Cross - was also among those urging the
UK
>government
> > >to ratify the Hague Convention.
> > > >
> > > > CILIP will be writing to the Overseas Development Minister
Claire
>Short
> > >making clear that the reconstruction effort in Iraq must give
priority
>to
> > >the restoration of library and information services. As a
member of
>IFLA,
> > >CILIP also supports the IFLA Council> '> s call to UNESCO to
pay
>particular
> > >attention to libraries and archives, as > "> essential parts of
the
>rich
> > >heritage of Iraq> "> .
> > > >
> > > > Information on Iraqi library holdings prior to the conflict
is
>likely
>to
> > >be the first priority, together with details of what has been
damaged,
> > >looted or destroyed. Expert advice is also likely to be needed
in
> > >preservation and conservation, and in rebuilding library and
>information
> > >infrastructure.
> > > >
> > > > "> It> '> s not just Iraqi cultural heritage that> '> s at
stake
>here,>
> > >"> explains Bob McKee. "As IFLA makes clear, strong attention
must
>also
> > >be given to governmental records, which are vital for the
functioning
>of
> > >public administration and for protecting the rights of Iraqi
citizens.
>No
> > >nation can function effectively in the twenty-first century
without a
> > >strong information society and knowledge economy,> "> Dr McKee
>concludes.
> > > > "> The international community is under a clear obligation
to help
>Iraq
> > >achieve that goal as rapidly as possible.> ">
> > > >
> > > > Contact: Tim Buckley Owen, Head of External Relations.
> > > > Tel: 020 7255 0652. Email:
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > Notes to Editors
> > > >
> > > > CILIP: the Chartered Institute of Library and Information
>Professionals
> > >is the> leading professional body for librarians, information
>specialists
> > >and knowledge managers, with ove> r 23,500 members working in
all
>sectors,
> > >including business and industry, science and technology,
further and
>higher
> > >education, schools, local and central government, the health
service,
>the
> > >voluntary sector, national and public libraries.
> > > >
> > > > CILIP> '> s goals are to: position the profession at the
heart of
>the
> > >information revolution; develop and enhance the role and skills
of all
>its
> > >Members; present and champion those skills, together with new
ones
>which
> > >will be acquired through continuing professional development;
and
>ensure
> > >that individuals, enterprises and not for profit organisations
have
>ready
> > >and timely access to the information they need.
> > > >
> > > > - Ends -
> > > >
> > > > Tim Buckley Owen, Head of External Relations
> > > > CILIP: the Chartered Institute of Library and Information
>Professionals
> > > > 7 Ridgmount St, London WC1E 7AE.
> > > > Direct line: +44 (0)20 7255 0652
> > > > Email: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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