Lesley,
I have also had the pleasure of checking Synergy and Ingenta
Select over the past few days!
We took the decision to move our OPAC links from 'classic'
ingenta to Synergy for the Blackwell full collection as the Synergy
site seems to be updated some time before the ingenta site - but
not always which I find rather bizarre, I must say that we have had
no problems with changes in publisher with Synergy, the
information can easily be found on the admin pages and can be
checked at your leisure. However, I still have trouble with the new
titles as every time a log onto Synergy there appear to be more
titles - for example today Synergy includes 678 titles that's about
40 more than the start of the year - trouble is I haven't a clue what
they are, without checking my old list with a new list of all titles
downloaded from the admin pages, this takes time! - I did used to
get an email which told me new titles, however these weren't
particularly new as we had already spotted them, and certainly
didn't cover all the new titles!
On to ingenta Select - one great thing is the list of subscribed titles
by publisher - but I was surprised when I looked at them - some we
have never taken, some we have cancelled but still get on ingenta
Select and some publisher changes between CUP and Sage - first
we had heard about them, on checking our CUP titles (these are
direct with CUP) they had moved but of course we were linking to a
page with no further details.
I can only do a check like this once a year during the summer, so
what happens for the rest of the year - my experience is that once
a user hits a dead page they won't tell us and certainly will not
return!
What I would like to see is all publishers/aggregators etc publish a
monthly (?) list of new titles, changed titles and cessations - and if
these titles have moved to another publisher who that publish is!
Elesvier manage this!!
For those lurking publishers and the like of Ingenta select out there
you may want to justify this by the following:
If we can't change a link quickly on the OPAC then the title will not
get used - if the titles don't get used then the usage stats will drop
in which case we will be cancelling those titles next year and you
are loosing revenue!
Graham
Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:39:53 +0100
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From: Lesley Crawshaw <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Journals Changing Publisher - How Does One Spot Them? - A Case Study
of PACE aka Pacing and Clinical Electrophysiology
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> Hi,
>
> We've had a subscription to Pacing and Clinical Electrophysiology ever
> since 1991. I had set up access to it on Catchword a couple of years
> ago, when it was published by Futura Publishing Company, Inc. and
> first went online on what was then Catchword. The link on our OPAC
> (although we've changed the domain name) is still pointing to
> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cw/futura/01478389/contp1.htm, and
> we might not have known any different if we hadn't have signed up for
> the "full" Blackwell Publishing deal for 2003. Now, this isn't a
> recommendation to sign up for the deal, but it illustrates the
> difficulty of tracking cases where journals have changed publisher,
> and the accidental ways one has to find out!
>
> We've been doing the "annual" trawl of our Blackwell Publishing
> journals, (a title by title check against 4 separate lists i.e. list
> of titles in the consortial deal, the list of titles accessible to us
> on Synergy, the list of titles we previously had access to under the
> "full" Blackwell Publishing deal for 2002 and prior years and a list
> of our Blackwell Publishing subscriptions) to see what was new, what
> was new on Synergy, what had ceased publication, what had changed
> title etc. for the Blackwell Publishing deal when I noticed that
> Pacing and Clinical Electrophysiology was appearing as a "new for
> 2003" title on Synergy and the consortial list. On further
> investigation I found out that Futura was now part of the Blackwell
> Publishing empire.
>
> Checking the link on our OPAC to this title i.e.
> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cw/futura/01478389/contp1.htm led us
> to what we thought was the old publisher page in that there was no new
> content since the end of 2002. We duly closed our entry on our OPAC to
> this title, and added a link to the title on Synergy, which still has
> only 2003 content for this title. This then became one of a number of
> "problem" titles that always appear when doing this kind of checking.
>
> I then browsed the list of journals by title on Ingenta Select and
> found the following link to Pacing and Clinical Electrophysiology i.e.
> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/ij/bsc/01478389/contp1.htm, where I
> found all the content i.e. back to Vol. 23(10) (2000). Great I
> thought, until I realised that we didn't have access to the 2003
> content on Ingenta Select. This is strange because we should have
> access to all those journals that are part of the "full" Blackwell
> Publishing deal for 2003 (and prior years), but then this isn't the
> first example of this problem with access to our Blackwell Publishing
> titles on Ingenta Select. I then checked ingenta for this title at:
> http://www.ingenta.com/journals/browse/bsc/pace where as expected all
> the content back to Vol.23(10) (2000) was available. This time we did
> have access to all the available online content, as we would have
> expected to be the case on Ingenta Select.
>
> This example raises a number of questions for me:
>
> 1. Why isn't there a redirect in place from the journal page for this
> title on Ingenta Select under the former publisher i.e.
> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cw/futura/01478389/contp1.htm to the
> title under the new publisher at:
> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cw/bsc/01478389/contp1.htm?
>
> 2. We didn't have a link on our OPAC to ingenta previously, but on
> checking COPAC two entries were linking to what I can only assume was
> the syntax for the journal on ingenta under its former publisher i.e.
> http://www.ingenta.com/journals/browse/futura/pace. Selecting this
> link leads to a message saying "Sorry, we are unable to display the
> page you requested at this time." Could not redirection have been put
> in place on ingenta for this title?
>
> 3. Once again we appear to be getting different access on Ingenta
> compared to Ingenta Select for our Blackwell Publishing titles that
> are part of consortial deals.
>
> 4. Why doesn't Synergy have the same content for this title as Ingenta
> and Ingenta Select? If it hasn't happened yet, will it be happening
> and if so, how will we ever find out, except by checking Synergy on a
> regular basis?
>
> 5. Why are these "dead" pages not being removed from Ingenta Select?
>
> I think that's everything I wanted to say. And now to the next
> "problem" on the list of things to try and sort out, but that's
> another story.
>
> Cheers
> Lesley
>
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