Hi,
another Mosby issue ...
we at KCL have been advised by Elsevier Health Sciences that we cannot
provide links from our webpages to the non-ScienceDirect Mosby titles
that we subsribe to in print.
As our Ejournals webpages can be 'viewed' on the internet
(NB: passwords are restricted to authorised users), we asked them
about the clause in the Mosby Terms and Conditions which states:
"You may not use or permit the use of all or any part of the Service
on any Local or Wide Area Network"
http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?web=terms.html&id=tc
We thought that this may relate to hosting copies of their data on
our own server (e.g. local copies of pdf files). But, if it related
to accessing the service it seemed to conflict with the statement:
"Institutional users: Please choose a user name and password to be
shared by everyone covered by your institutional account."
http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=activate&ordertype=S&pubcode=tc
So we contacted EHS and asked them if it was OK for us to link from
our webpages to their journals, where our users would access the site
using our password details which were secure and not available to
non-KCL authorised users. The reponse was:
"You are allowed to give the username and password out to whomever is
going to access the articles. Please note only 2 users are allowed on
the website at the same time. Access is available from any computer
within your institution but only by username and password.
Linking our journals in your website is prohibited."
We asked for further clarification, as this seemed a strange
approach. The answer we got was:
"Thank you for your response. To answer your question about placing
our journals link on your website. This is prohibited and not allowed
as a subscriber. If you do have this already placed on your website,
you are entitled to remove it."
I'm hoping I've misunderstood something really simple somewhere along
the line, but this approach is very strange and extremely frustrating.
Has anyone else come across this?
Apologies for the long message!
Russell
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Russell Burke
Electronic Resources Co-ordinator
Information Resources & Services
King's College London
Tel: 0207 848 4385
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On Tue, 6 May 2003 12:00:27 -0400 "Hamaker, Chuck"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Louise and Leslie are correct. Most of the Health Science titles are are not
> in Science Direct but only on the EHS site.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lesley Crawshaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Mosby titles and related
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Louise is raising a very valid issue here, one which can be a source of
> frustration for all of us trying to find the stable form of the URL for
> our records, especially when the links we see have dynamic information
> that is not part of the stable link.
>
> There is no information that I can find on the EHS Periodicals site
> about linking to their journals, not all of which are accessible on the
> ScienceDirect site.
>
> Whilst many sites do provides details of how ones provides direct links
> to journal titles, on other sites there is absolutely no information
> about linking e.g. ACM Digital Library, or if there is information it is
> buried deep in the web site. Good examples of the linking information
> being totally visible include ScienceDirect, IoP Electronic Journals and
> Taylor and Francis MetaPress where the information is detailed on the
> journal home page or via a link from the journal homepage.
>
> Having this information prominently displayed would make our lives much
> easier. Sites which don't presently provide such advice on linking would
> be well advised to consider adding this information to their site.
>
> Cheers
> Lesley
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Cole
> Sent: 06 May 2003 13:48
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Mosby titles and related
>
>
> Dear all
>
> Has anyone managed to figure out direct URLs to the titles listed at
> http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=home which
> include Mosby, Churchill Livingstone, Saunders, and others. Some we
> have guessed at, and some have short and manageable URLs, but others
> don't (for example Journal of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery.
>
> Anyone found a way round this who would be willing to share?
>
> Thanks
> Louise
>
> Louise Cole
> Electronic Resources Team Leader
> Health Sciences Library
> University of Leeds
> Leeds LS2 9JT
>
> e-mail [log in to unmask]
> tel 0113 343 5502
> fax 0113 343 4381
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King's College London
Tel: 0207 848 4385
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