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Re: Postcode area and / or district map / data

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Richard Nicoll <[log in to unmask]>

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Richard Nicoll <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:48:59 +0100

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Hi guys,

At the ONS site you can also try
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/cn_56.asp

I am not sure if you wish to go further than OA's or indeed whether you
are seeking administrative boundaries (from the planning system)
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/ or postcode boundaries.

If you have access to the PAF postcode database you can of course create
thiessen polygons for individual postcode units, at first glance the
accuracy is low but there are officially no actual postcode unit
boundaries!
http://www.ian-ko.com/resources/howto.htm

A useful site for updates is:
http://www.royalmail.com/portal/default/all/home?paf_dm=full&paf_gear_id
=100002&paf_gear_state=con_content&xmlPath=/docContent/xml/04__Business/
05__Managing_address_data/04__Postcode_Updates/01__Postcode_Updates_info
rmation.xml

Perhaps this will be of help

Rich

***

Rich Nicoll
GIS Consultant
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London Fax: 020 7902 6149
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Wightman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 June 2003 14:14
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Postcode area and / or district map / data


John,

Yes indeed! I am assuming that the requested use of such data is for
research/personal use since this is an adademic mailing list. Any other
uses
need to be carefully assessed with respect to the OS licence.

also- an off-list reply from Di Greaves, powys

> also they will not give you true post code boundaries, some post codes
had
> to be  split to enable COA's to nest within post codes wards and
> parishes/communities, see Dave Martins site
> http://www.geog.soton.ac.uk/research/oa2001/oaconst.htm

which is a useful reminder of the limitations of the data - thanks Di.

Andy

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> From: John Marsden <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: John Marsden <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:57:02 +0100
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Postcode area and / or district map / data
>
> Mathew and Co...
>
> Just a word of caution here, not that I am an expert, but....
>
> I think that the boundaries are Ordnance Survey property, so extreme
> caution must be applied before using them and I have copied them below
for
> your interest and a link to a further page for more detail.  Note, I
am not
> laying the law down here, just pointing out the possible problems. -
John
>
> Conditions of use
> The main Census geography products are included in the scope of Census
> Access, and, with the exception of the recovery of material costs,
will be
> free at the point of use.
>
> The OA boundaries are in part derived from Ordnance Survey material
and the
> terms and conditions for the use of the vector boundaries on CDs must
be
> accepted before use. These do not restrict use of the vector
boundaries
> within an organisation or use jointly by organisations which have each
> already accepted the terms of the licence. But there are some
> circumstances, particularly commercial value added use of the vector
> boundaries, where a further licence from Ordnance Survey may be
necessary.
> Census Customer Services should be contacted in any case of doubt. The
> terms and conditions are here.
> <http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/terms_and_conditions.asp>
>
> This page last revised: 07 May 2003
>
> --On 20 June 2003 12:33 +0100 Laine Skinner
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> The OA boundaries can be found at:
>> http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/op12.asp
>>
>> They are not at the scale of postcode street level, but are not far
from
>> it.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>> Laine
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 12:18, Matthew Stanfield wrote:
>>> Thank you Andy - this does help a lot. Most of the responses I've
had
>>> assume either access to Edina or lots of money to spend on data,
neither
>>> is applicable unfortunately.
>>>
>>> I'd already found the GROS in Scotland and I've found this also on
the
>>> National Statistics web site but can't find the England and Wales
>>> postcode boundaries on the Nat.Stat. site. Are you sure it is there
and,
>>> if so, what is it called?
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>
>>> ..matthew
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Wightman wrote:
>>>> Matthew,
>>>>
>>>> Obtaining digital boundary datasets remains problematic despite
>>>> askgiraffe website and others. As one who does freelance research I
am
>>>> particularly aware of this problem. Recent academic research I was
>>>> involved in allowed me access to Digimap
http://edina.ac.uk/digimap/
>>>> where you can download postcode data. The other key source is
>>>> http://edina.ed.ac.uk/ukborders/ However, these is only available
to
>>>> those with academic posts or affiliations.
>>>>
>>>> however, undertaking analysis of the 2001 census recently, I
realised
>>>> that using the freely available geography product availabel from
GROS
>>>> in Scotland and National Statistics(?) in England and Wales, you
can
>>>> build your own geographical boundary datasets in a GIS by
aggregating
>>>> output area polygons using the various lookup tables to postcode
>>>> sectors, postcode sectors,health board areas etc.
>>>>
>>>> Since some datasets from ukborders are not terribly precise (eg.
>>>> Scottish parishes), this is a good method for anyone wishing to
obtain
>>>> such data to do so cheaply and easily (well you have to spoend the
>>>> time merging lots of polgon datasets!)
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>> --
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>> Dr Laine Skinner
>>
>> Department of Geography,                Yr Adran Ddaearyddiaeth,
>> University of Wales: Swansea,           Prifysgol Cymru:  Abertawe,
>> Singleton Park,                         Parc Singleton,
>> Swansea, SA2 8PP, UK.                   Abertawe, SA2 8PP, Cymru, UK.
>>
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>> Fax/Ffacs: +44 (0)1792 295955
>> http://www.swan.ac.uk/geog/
>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------
> John Marsden
> 0151 794 3123
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