John,
Yes indeed! I am assuming that the requested use of such data is for
research/personal use since this is an adademic mailing list. Any other uses
need to be carefully assessed with respect to the OS licence.
also- an off-list reply from Di Greaves, powys
> also they will not give you true post code boundaries, some post codes had
> to be split to enable COA's to nest within post codes wards and
> parishes/communities, see Dave Martins site
> http://www.geog.soton.ac.uk/research/oa2001/oaconst.htm
which is a useful reminder of the limitations of the data - thanks Di.
Andy
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> From: John Marsden <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: John Marsden <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:57:02 +0100
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Postcode area and / or district map / data
>
> Mathew and Co...
>
> Just a word of caution here, not that I am an expert, but....
>
> I think that the boundaries are Ordnance Survey property, so extreme
> caution must be applied before using them and I have copied them below for
> your interest and a link to a further page for more detail. Note, I am not
> laying the law down here, just pointing out the possible problems. - John
>
> Conditions of use
> The main Census geography products are included in the scope of Census
> Access, and, with the exception of the recovery of material costs, will be
> free at the point of use.
>
> The OA boundaries are in part derived from Ordnance Survey material and the
> terms and conditions for the use of the vector boundaries on CDs must be
> accepted before use. These do not restrict use of the vector boundaries
> within an organisation or use jointly by organisations which have each
> already accepted the terms of the licence. But there are some
> circumstances, particularly commercial value added use of the vector
> boundaries, where a further licence from Ordnance Survey may be necessary.
> Census Customer Services should be contacted in any case of doubt. The
> terms and conditions are here.
> <http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/terms_and_conditions.asp>
>
> This page last revised: 07 May 2003
>
> --On 20 June 2003 12:33 +0100 Laine Skinner <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> The OA boundaries can be found at:
>> http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/op12.asp
>>
>> They are not at the scale of postcode street level, but are not far from
>> it.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>> Laine
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 12:18, Matthew Stanfield wrote:
>>> Thank you Andy - this does help a lot. Most of the responses I've had
>>> assume either access to Edina or lots of money to spend on data, neither
>>> is applicable unfortunately.
>>>
>>> I'd already found the GROS in Scotland and I've found this also on the
>>> National Statistics web site but can't find the England and Wales
>>> postcode boundaries on the Nat.Stat. site. Are you sure it is there and,
>>> if so, what is it called?
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>
>>> ..matthew
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Wightman wrote:
>>>> Matthew,
>>>>
>>>> Obtaining digital boundary datasets remains problematic despite
>>>> askgiraffe website and others. As one who does freelance research I am
>>>> particularly aware of this problem. Recent academic research I was
>>>> involved in allowed me access to Digimap http://edina.ac.uk/digimap/
>>>> where you can download postcode data. The other key source is
>>>> http://edina.ed.ac.uk/ukborders/ However, these is only available to
>>>> those with academic posts or affiliations.
>>>>
>>>> however, undertaking analysis of the 2001 census recently, I realised
>>>> that using the freely available geography product availabel from GROS
>>>> in Scotland and National Statistics(?) in England and Wales, you can
>>>> build your own geographical boundary datasets in a GIS by aggregating
>>>> output area polygons using the various lookup tables to postcode
>>>> sectors, postcode sectors,health board areas etc.
>>>>
>>>> Since some datasets from ukborders are not terribly precise (eg.
>>>> Scottish parishes), this is a good method for anyone wishing to obtain
>>>> such data to do so cheaply and easily (well you have to spoend the
>>>> time merging lots of polgon datasets!)
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Andy
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