Interesting that they're slamming him for not being scientific and
for being biased as though science and scientists are not biased,
politically and economically directed and motivated at times.
Mike
> --- STEVEN BISSELL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Again, all I can say is SE is not *about* statistics, it is about
> > environmental science. Lomborg can't claim to only be interested in
> > statistics if he writes an entire book about scientific issues. By
> > the way, if you read SE you'll see little or no details about
> > Lomborg's analysis, just his conclusions and the *big* numbers.
>
> I understand, but he doesn't claim to be a scientist does he? As for
> Pernille's comments below...looks like he is a politician...sorry if I
> don't believe that kind of creature.
>
> Steve
>
>
> > sb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Steve Verdon <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: "Discussion forum for environmental ethics."
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Lomborg ad nauseum
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:28:18 -0800
> > >
> > > >>"Bjoern Lomborg is a provocative environmental debater (and) he
> > >should be allowed to be that," said Pernille Blach Hansen of the
> > >opposition Social Democrats. "The problem is that he and the
> > >government have presented him as something he is not: namely a
> > >scientist." <<
> > >
> > >Gee, does this mean scientists are going to stop doing statistics
> > >too? After all people might get the idea they actually think they
> > >know something about statistics...
> > >
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Steven Bissell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > Here's an article about Lomborg. Seems his peers in Denmark
> > smell
> > > > something rotten (oh, come on! I had to do it.) Interesting
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > panel felt, as I do, that Lomborg's failure to cite common
> > source
> > > > which
> > > > do not necessarily agree with him is/was suspicious. However I
> > am a
> > > > bit
> > > > aghast that Lomborg was actually appointed to a position of
> > > > authority on any environmental issue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steven
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Danish panel says controversial book not scientific
> > > >
> > > > Wednesday, January 08, 2003
> > > >
> > > > The Associated Press
> > > >
> > > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - A Danish panel of scientists said Tuesday
> > > > that a controversial book challenging the sacred cows of the
> > environmental
> > > > movement was not a scientific publication.
> > > >
> > > > In his 2001 best seller, "The Skeptical Environmentalist,"
> > Danish
> > > > statistician Bjoern Lomborg said concerns about melting ice
> > caps,
> > > > deforestation, acid rain were exaggerated. He claimed that the
> > > > global environmental situation was not deteriorating. The book
> > > > was translated into a dozen languages and generated criticism
> > > > from environmentalists worldwide.
> > > >
> > > > The Danish Committees on Scientific Dishonesty said the
> > 350-page
> > > > book
> > > > "is clearly in violation of the norms for good scientific
> > > > behavior." The
> > > > agency reviewed the book after complaints from four scientists,
> > > > including Stuart Pimm, an ecologist at the Center for
> > Environmental
> > > > Research and Conservation at Columbia University in New York.
> > He
> > > > did not
> > > > immediately return a call from The Associated Press.
> > > >
> > > > Hans Henrik Brydensholt, the panel's chairman, said Lomborg did
> > not
> > > > make
> > > > "thorough searches for all available sources ... including what
> > > > goes against one's supposition. ...He used sources in favor of
> > > > his
> > own
> > > > beliefs," he said.
> > > >
> > > > Lomborg acknowledged Tuesday that he may not have always quoted
> > all
> > > > available sources, but said the panel failed to provide any
> > > > examples of the alleged unfairness, he said. "I have never tried
> > > > to hide
> > that I
> > > > wasn't an environment specialist," Lomborg said, adding his
> > book
> > > > was
> > > > meant to start a debate on the environment.
> > > >
> > > > The ruling didn't include any penalty, but opponents of the
> > > > Liberal-Conservative government said it was an indicator that
> > > > Lomborg shouldn't have been named director of the national
> > Environmental
> > > > Assessment Institute, which monitors the use by state agencies
> > of
> > > > public
> > > > funds aimed at cutting pollution.
> > > >
> > > > "Bjoern Lomborg is a provocative environmental debater (and) he
> > > > should be allowed to be that," said Pernille Blach Hansen of the
> > > > opposition Social Democrats. "The problem is that he and the
> > > > government
> > have
> > > > presented him as something he is not: namely a scientist."
> > > >
> > > > A former member of Greenpeace, Lomborg has argued that a
> > solution
> > > > to
> > > > pollution is more likely to be found in economic and
> > technological
> > > > progress than in the policies advocated by many
> > environmentalist
> > > > organizations.
> > > >
> > > > Copyright 2003, Associated Press
> > > > All Rights Reserved
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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