--- STEVEN BISSELL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Again, all I can say is SE is not *about* statistics, it is about
> environmental science. Lomborg can't claim to only be interested in
> statistics if he writes an entire book about scientific issues. By
> the way,
> if you read SE you'll see little or no details about Lomborg's
> analysis,
> just his conclusions and the *big* numbers.
I understand, but he doesn't claim to be a scientist does he? As for
Pernille's comments below...looks like he is a politician...sorry if
I don't believe that kind of creature.
Steve
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> >From: Steve Verdon <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: "Discussion forum for environmental ethics."
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Lomborg ad nauseum
> >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:28:18 -0800
> >
> > >>"Bjoern Lomborg is a provocative environmental debater (and) he
> >should be allowed to be that," said Pernille Blach Hansen of the
> >opposition Social Democrats. "The problem is that he and the
> >government have presented him as something he is not: namely a
> >scientist." <<
> >
> >Gee, does this mean scientists are going to stop doing statistics
> >too? After all people might get the idea they actually think they
> >know something about statistics...
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Steven Bissell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Here's an article about Lomborg. Seems his peers in Denmark
> smell
> > > something rotten (oh, come on! I had to do it.) Interesting
> that
> > > the
> > > panel felt, as I do, that Lomborg's failure to cite common
> source
> > > which
> > > do not necessarily agree with him is/was suspicious. However I
> am a
> > > bit
> > > aghast that Lomborg was actually appointed to a position of
> > > authority on
> > > any environmental issue.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Danish panel says controversial book not scientific
> > >
> > > Wednesday, January 08, 2003
> > >
> > > The Associated Press
> > >
> > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - A Danish panel of scientists said Tuesday
> > > that a
> > > controversial book challenging the sacred cows of the
> environmental
> > > movement was not a scientific publication.
> > >
> > > In his 2001 best seller, "The Skeptical Environmentalist,"
> Danish
> > > statistician Bjoern Lomborg said concerns about melting ice
> caps,
> > > deforestation, acid rain were exaggerated. He claimed that the
> > > global
> > > environmental situation was not deteriorating. The book was
> > > translated
> > > into a dozen languages and generated criticism from
> > > environmentalists
> > > worldwide.
> > >
> > > The Danish Committees on Scientific Dishonesty said the
> 350-page
> > > book
> > > "is clearly in violation of the norms for good scientific
> > > behavior." The
> > > agency reviewed the book after complaints from four scientists,
> > > including Stuart Pimm, an ecologist at the Center for
> Environmental
> > > Research and Conservation at Columbia University in New York.
> He
> > > did not
> > > immediately return a call from The Associated Press.
> > >
> > > Hans Henrik Brydensholt, the panel's chairman, said Lomborg did
> not
> > > make
> > > "thorough searches for all available sources ... including what
> > > goes
> > > against one's supposition. ...He used sources in favor of his
> own
> > > beliefs," he said.
> > >
> > > Lomborg acknowledged Tuesday that he may not have always quoted
> all
> > > available sources, but said the panel failed to provide any
> > > examples of
> > > the alleged unfairness, he said. "I have never tried to hide
> that I
> > > wasn't an environment specialist," Lomborg said, adding his
> book
> > > was
> > > meant to start a debate on the environment.
> > >
> > > The ruling didn't include any penalty, but opponents of the
> > > Liberal-Conservative government said it was an indicator that
> > > Lomborg
> > > shouldn't have been named director of the national
> Environmental
> > > Assessment Institute, which monitors the use by state agencies
> of
> > > public
> > > funds aimed at cutting pollution.
> > >
> > > "Bjoern Lomborg is a provocative environmental debater (and) he
> > > should
> > > be allowed to be that," said Pernille Blach Hansen of the
> > > opposition
> > > Social Democrats. "The problem is that he and the government
> have
> > > presented him as something he is not: namely a scientist."
> > >
> > > A former member of Greenpeace, Lomborg has argued that a
> solution
> > > to
> > > pollution is more likely to be found in economic and
> technological
> > > progress than in the policies advocated by many
> environmentalist
> > > organizations.
> > >
> > > Copyright 2003, Associated Press
> > > All Rights Reserved
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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