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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 4 Apr 2003 to 5 Apr 2003 (#2003-94)
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Date: Sun, April 6, 2003 6:00 am
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There are 6 messages totalling 120 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. unwanted admirers in Victorian/Edwardian fiction
2. Odd editing in Puffin Classics _Little Women_? x-posted
3. hirsute Victorians (2)
4. Fictional works on the white slave trade
5. Hirsute Victorians
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:17:07 +0100
From: Emelyne Godfrey <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: unwanted admirers in Victorian/Edwardian fiction
Dear Listserver Members,
Thank you very much for your wonderful replies! I'm amazed to see that
there are so many instances of the unwanted admirers - I think I will
have lots of novels to read now!
Emelyne Godfrey
Birkbeck
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 02:35:11 EST
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Subject: Odd editing in Puffin Classics _Little Women_? x-posted
My daughter just brought home the Puffin Classics edition of _Little
Women_, which claims to be unabridged, and I have found some very odd
readings in it. In chapter 3, "The Laurence Boy," Jo says "That's a
splendid piano," instead of "That's a splendid polka," and the reference
to her dancing with Laurie ("The hall was empty, and they had a grand
polka, for Laurie danced well, and taught her the German step, which
delighted Jo, being full of swing and spring") is cut. Meg no longer has
"a delicious redowa" with the red-headed man, and Jo says, not "He
looked like a grasshopper in a fit when he did the new step," but "He
looked like a grasshopper in a fit," full stop, which makes no sense.
Then in the next chapter, Jo tells Meg "Poor dear, just wait till I make
my fortune, and you shall revel in carriages and ice-cream and high
heeled slippers and posies and red-headed boys to chat with," where the
version I know says "to *dance* with."
Perhaps this version reproduces changes that were made in some earlier
edition? Does anyone know? There are other references to dancing that
are left in, notably the dancing at Meg's wedding. But I'm finding more
and more that have been cut, such as Jo's "I don't care much for company
dancing. It's no fun to go sailing round. I like to fly about and cut
capers." In fact Mrs. Gardiner's invitation is changed from "dance" to
"party."
Helen Schinske
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:38:20 -0600
From: Martin A Danahay <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: hirsute Victorians
Forgive me if this question has been posed before, but does anybody have
any information on the Victorian attitude towards beards? (I should also
confess that I have one myself and have vague recollection of beards
being considered....unsavoury...ahem...during this period).
Martin Danahay
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:23:52 EST
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Subject: Fictional works on the white slave trade
I was wondering if anyone could suggest British fictional sources on the
"white slave trade" from the latter part of the 19th century. Any
replies would be extremely helpful. Thank you.
-Kevin Switaj
Kevin A. Switaj
Doctoral Candidate
Indiana University History Department
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 00:31:26 -0400
From: James Jayo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: hirsute Victorians
Martin Danahay wrote:
"does anybody have any information on the Victorian attitude towards
beards? ... [I] have vague recollection of beards being considered
unsavoury"
If you look at photographs of Victorian men, you'll find lots of facial
hair. Tennyson, Ruskin, Arnold. One of the many ways Wilde stood out in
Victorian society was being always clean-shaven. In America you have
Whitman and of course Ambrose Burnside, for whom sideburns are named.
All but the last are men of letters, but most of the US presidents I can
recall from the second half of the 19th century had beards of one kind
or another. Stead, Shaw, Verlaine--big bushy beards.
That's all from visual memory. Not sure about attitudes in writing.
Beerbohm must say something about beards somewhere.
Hoping that helps,
James Jayo
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 22:49:57 -0600
From: "Doris H. Meriwether" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Hirsute Victorians
Didn't Queen Victoria express a negative opinion about beards?
Doris Meriwether
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