And beddie-bye for me.
Mark
At 03:09 PM 1/9/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Mark - I said my sketch was schematic. I accept your caveats
>without hesitation: I also think that it doesn't really change the
>gist of what I'm attempting to say. There is a factor I forgot to
>mention, which is the role of education.
>
>At 7:19 PM -0800 1/8/03, Mark Weiss wrote:
>>It's a terrible way to achieve it, but it
>>seems clear that in many many cases victimhood increases the woman's power
>>within the family polity, and I can tell you that in more than a few cases
>>this appeared to be sufficient reason for the woman to stay. Clearly
>>profoundly pathological, but the choice of a man who abuses, however
>>constrained, is often the product of a pathology as profound as the man's
>>and always worth questioning.
>
>Yes; again. That pathology in its less extreme form was what I was
>attempting to indicate in this:
>
>At 11:05 AM +1000 1/9/03, Alison Croggon wrote:
>>So the issue of complicity is a real one. I was raised by a woman
>>who told me that one should never challenge the authority of a man;
>>that in order to get what one wanted, one used manipulation (not
>>that she called it that). This is the classic tactic of the
>>powerless; it's also in its own way quite successful, although I
>>think the effects of this are almost wholly negative, since it is
>>basically a counsel of despair, a kind of awful realpolitik which
>>falsifies any possibility of honest relationship between men and
>>women. I found it a horrific idea, and still do: I have a violent
>>allergic reaction to those ideas of being "feminine" because of that
>>conditioning. But this is how these complicities are transmitted.
>
>OK. back to work...
>
>Cheers
>
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